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| DATE | 2005-05-27 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [CFSG-forum] Fwd:
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That's not what ticks me off about this law. There have been times and
instances when a particular industry has been made responsible for what
happens to their products at the end of their life cycle. Bottling and
Beverage Companies, for example. Refrigeration and Air Conditioner
units. Ford has at times recycled their plastic cars.
What bothers me is that this whole law is the worse kind of political
pandering one can envision in the city. It's an arrogant stand to
believe that this city can dictate the selling terms of every CPU sold
here by forcing the manufacturers to figure out how to recycle it, all
because Miller is pandering to the fools on the upper west side, who
every election come to believe that they have some extra sway more than
what the 4 million citizens in the outer boroughs possess.
And then they add this piece of Pork with the educational kick back,
hoping nobody notices how screwed up this law is in the first place.
The politicians in Trenton are snickering under their breath on this
one. And they just can't wait for a Griffith Miller victory come
November.
If the concern is so great to recycle computer systems, for all the
reasons, Mercury, Gold, Plastic, etc, then they are going to need to get
the Feds to sign on to this.
Meanwhile the good people in Greenwich Village would serve EVERYONE far
better if they focused their recycling energy on McDonald's and Burger
King so I don't have to wake up every morning to see a ton of Plastic
burger containers sprawled all along Kings Highway, or floating in the
harbor when I go fishing.
Recycling Plastic bottles and to just allow the continued unfettered
packaging on consumer goods is retarded. What a load of crap that is.
But then again, the primary manufacturer of all the useless garbage is a
minority owned business in the Bronx. Nobody wants to make them pick up
their trash.
Just because we are running non-profits that promote computer literacy
and want to erase the digital divide is no reason why any of us should
take our eye off the ball.
The result of this regulation will be that Dell and HP will just stop
shipping in NYC, or make it so expensive that the population will either
find a way around the law or move.
Ruben
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 19:00, Steve Milo wrote:
> Apparently whoever concoted this law is completely ignorant of the economies involved. What manufacturer on this planet will be willing to take back their product because it is 'old'!! What kind of insane, narrow minded asenine thinking went into this law!
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> Go to GM, Diamler, Toyota and propose this kind of law to them, tell them that in order to tell cars in NYC they will have to take back cars over 8 years old. See what they say, in fact see how the federal government starts to lean on whoever proposed that sort of law.
> Then go to corn farmers and tell them that the husks have to be collected for every ear of corn sold in the city. Then go to chicken farmers and tell them that for every five eggs used in NYC one eggshell must be collected.
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> If the City and its citizens want to recycle computers, then by all means let the citizens or their(our) representitives setup such a service. There are citizens in third world countries (and first world for that matter) who would love to have a PIII in their house. In fact if anyone has one to spare I'll take it!!
>
> This bill is just a reflection of how recursive the hysteria over the environment has become.
> Lets all take a deep breath here, take a step back and put some thought and do some scientific testing to figure out what could really affect our environment. For one thing I feel there arent enough tree's in the city, the air has to be filtered somehow.
> Also, there is a large piece of real estate on Trinity Pl in downtown Manhattan that needs development. Two big buildings once stood there, those two buildings have to be rebuilt, possibly on a grander scale.
>
> Steve M
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