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| DATE | 2005-05-07 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] rant: Open Office "help"
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> I shouldn't have hit "send" so quickly....
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> I think the problems in OpenOffice.org remain the same as always.
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> 1. The code itself is so hideous, developers are afraid to touch it.
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> 2. The "OOo community" is an illusion, it's really just Sun.
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> The reasons for 2, I won't get into, but both of these issues give
> me little enthusiasm for OOo. It could collapse at any moment Sun
> decides it's not worth their effort anymore, and the code itself belongs
> in the trashbin. So efforts are probably better spent starting a new
> office suite from scratch, or in enhancing the existing alternatives and
> trying to bring them together in a unified "suite". Picking up the
> remains and carrying on just doesn't strike me as a viable solution,
> especially now that the OOo suite is infested with Java.
>
> If you're serious about the documentation project, you'd be better off
> doing it independently of Sun/OOo altogether.
>
I found this in usenet land, which is dated 4/1 -
See comments below:
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Sam Hiser Apr 1, 7:45 am show options
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From: shi...-at-cloud9.net (Sam Hiser) - Find messages by this author
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:45:14 +0800 (CST)
Local: Fri,Apr 1 2005 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [discuss] Novell and OOo for slick new Novell desktop
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Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
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>On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 17:44, Daniel Carrera wrote:
>>Christian Einfeldt wrote:
>>>Linspire is the slickest GNU/Linux desktop that I have seen so far,
>>>but now here comes Novell with some slick new stuff that it claims
>>>will be slicker than Microsoft.
>>Since when is Microsoft "slick" ?
>They have the slickest marketing and package scheme of any software
>producer. Its a shame thats all they have going for them.
We are always talking from our own point of view as INDIVIDUALS. I
thought it would be interesting to address this persistent issue of
DISTRO CHOICE from the enterprise perspective, which is so different and
even more important when concerning Linux/OOo and overall ADOPTION.
Linspire and Xandros are nice but tend to fail due diligence when
organizations review the products and the COMPANIES BEHIND the
products--which is a big factor--not to mention the services surrounding
the product. That's why enterprise Linux options only boil down to 2 or
3: Red Hat, Novell & Java Desktop System...the decision being driven by
the COMPLETE offering, including the quality and culture of the vendor
COMPANY.
NLD is good, with nice Windows app integration from Citrix Client, VNC
etc. and with a full backing of support, training and consulting from
Novell.
Red Hat Enterprise Linux, though, comes out soundly on top as being the
most full borne and professional desktop system of any (bar none), even
Windows. It's sold only in units of 10 at $2,500 per. Now $250 seems
like a lot to an individual student or hacker, but RHDT is a BUNDLED
deal--with support, deployment, RH Network, etc-- so you can't compare
it blindly across a distro pricing matrix. Trust me, it's by far the
best value and most complete; although out of the reach of mere mortals ;-)
The first review of it is here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8191
-Sam
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Frankly, this is the clap trap that OOo is burried in, IMO. When their not
creating a new scripting language to embed into it, refusing to distribute
it with a database because it doesn't port to windows well, arguing over
which backwardly build windows-like facility they want to add, then
they are refusing to leverage the natural FS tools already available
and destroying interoperability with other GNU tools.
That being said, it is still the most complete Office Suit available which is
free and the dumb slaveware users seem to be able to work with it instantly.
The documentation though, turns my stomach. There is no excuse.
Ruben
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