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| DATE | 2005-03-02 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] We have truly lost it ....
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> A word of advice: stay away from tired language like
> "bleeding heart liberals". It's a real turn-off.
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I agree...
> Great idea. Now ban it for murderers over 18, and we're done.
>
Really. They should execute them regardless of their age. Do you
remember when Franklin Avenue had over 200 murders by Teens, on that ONE
AVENUE, in ONE YEAR, in a 5 block radius. And the murderers where
publicly tell the press that they were untouchable, all of which ended
after, among other things, NY State passed a law to treat such these
"Juvenile Offenders" ie: ravaging, murderous criminals, as adults.
> eh? Are you worried that Johnny won't be blamed, or are you worried
> that Johnny won't be given a lethal injection in a state revenge ritual?
Revenges is THE CRITICAL aspect of justice. Without civic enforcement
of justice which vents the revenge of the victim's family, society
breaks down, as it did in Brooklyn in the early 1990's, to an ugly blood
feud with vigilantly justice. Fear overcomes the society at large, and
hatred spills over the street. This is the exact origin of criminal
justice predating even the law given to Moses.
The whole process is designed from the ground up as a ritualization of
apprehending, processing, and expression of collective anger in lew of
personal execution of actions by individuals in expressing their anger
directly through violence. The first stage in this process is the
contract between society and victims that the state will bare the burden
of justly executing the revenge of the victim in prosecuting punishment
which is satisfactory in the general sense to the emotional punishment
meted out to the victim and their loved ones.
Criminal justice has nothing to do with rehabilitating the criminal, the
criminals potential, the criminals remorse, etc etc. Criminal justice
is about healing the wounds of the victims in order to prevent an
inevitable break down of social order to blood feuds.
Ruben
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