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| DATE | 2005-03-03 |
| FROM | From: "Martin, Jared"
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| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] We have truly lost it ....
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I've found that my Blackberry doesn't terminate lines the way you like, but what about this line from Outlook?
What happens if I send it as rich text or html?
Here are my arguments of why I feel you can't expect the world to use linefeeds at the end of
each line in e-mails:
* Understand the implications of being in the far minority - Although OpenSource is
great, a person using Linux/Opensource must still understand that the large majority of
the world does not. I don't see how you can expect the world to change their procedures
when writing e-mails, when the large majority of people do not have the linefeed-less
reading disability you're mentioning. And Opensource has just as many programs that
support this as any other source. A similar situation is when mac users send mac
formatted documents to our firm and expect our users to be able to open and use them.
In my opinion, mac is great if you have the pockets for it, but mac users, like linux users
to a lesser degree must understand that most users do not use the same formats, and
should take it upon themselves to make up for the difference and understand that to be
part of the current drawbacks of using a stable computer.
* Any rule of eitiquette regarding linefeeds at the end of each line must be
antiquated - We are way beyond the days of typewriters when you used the enter key
at the end of each line. Keep up with the times. True, most hackers would use linefeeds,
but most of them developed their e-mail writing habits when this was a nesecity, and
although there was a day when hackers held a large percentage of those using networks,
those days are long gone. We constantly have to ask ourselves are our decisions made
to make life easier for ourselves or for the users we are programming/working for? The
same principle applies. This becomes even more clearer when you consider the fact that
the very concept of e-mail is to be an electrinic form of the normal (snail) mail system
which standards do not permit linefeeds/carraige returns at the end of each line, but only
at the end of the paragraphs.
* Having linefeeds about every 80 characters makes editing a real chore - Every time
I go to add something in I have to change the linefeeds throught the entire document. This
is a menial task which should be handled by the software.
* Get a new e-mail client - I dare say most of the e-mail software in use today handles this
issue gracefully. I don't see how you can expect the world to spend their precious time
insterting characters into their e-mails that the large majority of readers will never see, and
which, those who do see it could remedy the problem by simply using a more sophisticated
e-mail client or patch the one you're using.
Of course I realize that in this group I am probably in the minority and for that reason I aquiesce
and inserted the linefeeds as you requested.
Just my humble opinion. I'm expecting a smart response exposing my youthful ignorance once
again, but I suppose that's how one learns.
Sincerely,
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Jared Martin
IT Desktop Support
Davis & Gilbert LLP
1740 Broadway
New York, NY 10019
Help Desk: 212-237-1500
Office: 212-237-1504
Cell: 646-773-4138
Fax: (212) 974-7023
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hangouts-at-mrbrklyn.com [mailto:owner-hangouts-at-mrbrklyn.com]On
Behalf Of Dave_att
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:35 PM
To: Billy
Cc: Hangout (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [hangout] We have truly lost it ....
Billy,
The "ENTER" key is my carrige return and linefeed. How else can I put in a linefeed after each sentence? I may have my linefeed set to more than 80 characters per line. I dont think I can change that.
Dave
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Billy
> Dave_att wrote:
> > Billy,
> >
> > I hope this solves he problem that you have been having with my posts. I went
> into the guts of the email program and changed over to plain text editor. This
> is no frills editing, like no fancy fonts or colors. Not even smileys :).
>
>
> You still aren't using linefeeds.
> You know, that big key under your right pinky?
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