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| DATE | 2005-02-12 |
| FROM | Ron Guerin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Monitoring input in simple chat exercise.
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On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:39 -0500, Martin, Jared wrote:
> The proprietary programming environment (libraries,
> IDE's) I'm using is a very high- level program called kwrite and
> gcc. :-)
> The rest of what you've said is very true, however. I feel I I've a
> good grasp of the fundamentals. I started studing on a version of
> pascal that ran in dos (can't remember the version) I realize that's
> nothing for lots of you guys, and c is definitly a more mature lang.
> But there were none of these programming environs when I started.
> What is more, although I could be studing how to do 3d graphics with
> libs I don't begin to understand, you'll notice I'm instead studing
> the ins and out of working with sockets and streams using nothing more
> than the standard lib.
Well, I'm feeling contrarian today, so I'm going to say anything that
gets you interested in programming is a good thing, especially if it's
for yourself. The standard for a fine program that you wrote yourself
for yourself should be that it _works_.
Nevertheless, professional standards is something of a hot topic in
here, and also among my friends who know nothing of NYLXS's or NYLUG's
mailing lists. If you're planning on doing this for a living, please
_do_ make sure to go back to the beginning. It makes a big difference
in the quality of not just the code itself, but the solutions devised.
I know of one company who I won't name, but they've been a symbol of
quality for some time now and they're in the midst of trying to fulfill
a hiring quota now, and have reduced themselves to bringing in people
who are pleased with themselves for over commenting obvious lines of
code. (or perhaps not obvious to them, just anyone who's actually
competent) That company's fate is now sealed.
btw: The first "compiler" I owned was Pascal for the C-64. I'd love to
smack my high school teachers who were peddling this nonsense about
Pascal being the language of the future.
> I do have a LOT to learn though, but as I whined many times already,
> nobody will provide me with info about the pricing of the classes!
> PLEASE ANYONE! Excuse my outburst. Thanks.
That's rather uncharacteristic of this group, but not being a member
myself, I have no useful suggestion other than to keep trying, and
perhaps look for someone in IRC. (irc.freenode.net #nylxs)
- Ron
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