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DATE | 2005-02-12 |
FROM | Billy
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Monitoring input in simple chat exercise.
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Ron Guerin wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 12:39 -0500, Martin, Jared wrote: > >>The proprietary programming environment (libraries, >>IDE's) I'm using is a very high- level program called kwrite and >>gcc. :-) >>The rest of what you've said is very true, however. I feel I I've a >>good grasp of the fundamentals. I started studing on a version of >>pascal that ran in dos (can't remember the version) I realize that's >>nothing for lots of you guys, and c is definitly a more mature lang. >>But there were none of these programming environs when I started. >>What is more, although I could be studing how to do 3d graphics with >>libs I don't begin to understand, you'll notice I'm instead studing >>the ins and out of working with sockets and streams using nothing more >>than the standard lib. > > > Well, I'm feeling contrarian today, so I'm going to say anything that > gets you interested in programming is a good thing, especially if it's > for yourself. The standard for a fine program that you wrote yourself > for yourself should be that it _works_. > > Nevertheless, professional standards is something of a hot topic in > here, and also among my friends who know nothing of NYLXS's or NYLUG's > mailing lists. If you're planning on doing this for a living, please > _do_ make sure to go back to the beginning. It makes a big difference > in the quality of not just the code itself, but the solutions devised. > I know of one company who I won't name, but they've been a symbol of > quality for some time now and they're in the midst of trying to fulfill > a hiring quota now, and have reduced themselves to bringing in people > who are pleased with themselves for over commenting obvious lines of > code. (or perhaps not obvious to them, just anyone who's actually > competent) That company's fate is now sealed.
> btw: The first "compiler" I owned was Pascal for the C-64. I'd love to > smack my high school teachers who were peddling this nonsense about > Pascal being the language of the future.
High school programming classes were truly Wirthless. Who was applying the apparent pascals of pressure pushing that language into highschool curricula?
I never had Pascal for my C64. I ended up inheriting a MacSE with a Pascal environment whose name escapes me. Lucky dog. The Mac Pascal sucked because you could only run your programs from WITHIN the environment. I guess this was 1991 or so. ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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