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| DATE | 2005-02-14 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Unheeded Warnings
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> My plan was trying to get me to go the Mail order route but I refused even though they said it would lower my cost.
>
Yeah
they're so kind to you. Of course it loers your cost. They're in complete control.
> You really got this down, its really sad for those people who dont have a plan and keep begging their Pharmacists to refill their perscriptions. I have seen this happen and the pharmacist refuses to refill the meds.
>
> (what am i doing up at this hour anyhow)
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> -------------- Original message from Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS : --------------
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> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 05:43:24AM +0000, Dave_att wrote:
> > >
> > > Look here! you dont know my pharmacist, hes a real nice person.
> > >
> > > So heres my story.
> > >
> > > Recently, I qestioned him about a perscription price, which I thought was very
> > high. I am covered by a plan. He told me that Medco was charging me forty % of
> > the cost. That is bull cause the plan should not charge more than 20% of cost.
> > > I called the provider and they said that there were generic brands of the same
> > medecine Plus the plan went up this year.
> > >
> > > So I am wondering how do those people, who dont have a plan, get the medicine
> > they need.
> > > Never mind the generic brands.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Blame your plan....
> >
> > And blame the Pharmacuetic Companies. The Phamracy gets about 0.65 cents
> > from filling the prescription and processing the Rx cost 0.25$ per connection
> > to Medco. Medco then cuts a back door deal claiming that they are "buying"
> > the drug in bulk, which is BS because their not buying ANY DRUGS, and getting
> > a rebate from the manufactorer for about %40 of the cost which they POCKET.
> >
> > And then the Drug company passed the cost along in the next price increase.
> >
> >
> > Thats why I don't give a shit anymore if ANYONE is making money on RXs' I
> > just want to get my money and to consel patients. So I found a store that
> > is doing about 20 Rxs a day and which they are paying be just shot of
> > 100K a year or 40 hours a week. And if I don't get like a 10% pay raise in
> > about 6 months, I'm walking to the next job. They all complain that they
> > can't find Pharmacists and they can't afford Pharmacist, meanwhile they
> > sign contracts which are below their costs and push the Pharmacists to
> > fill over 350 Rxs a day when the **know** that anything over about 140 in
> > an 8 hour shift triples the medication error rate.
> >
> > And it gets worse. Then Medco, which was owned my Merk until recently,
> > forced the patient to go mail order, where they NEVER get the needed the
> > clinical work the patient needs, which has been shown repeatedly in a dozen
> > studies at this point. Proper pharmacuetical monitoring and care saves
> > nearly 30% of the costs per patient year because reduction of adverse reactions
> > and imporved patient outcomes.
> >
> > So the ***most*** cost affective means of ***reducing*** health costs is
> > having patients spend MORE time with the pharmacist. Its not a damn
> > bagel shop when that Birth control tablet causes a stroke in a 29 year
> > old women because nobody was watching and nobody was warned.
> >
> > And that happens every day.
> >
> > BTW - You need a better Pharmacist. Fortunately for you, you know one...
> >
> >
> > and you can call me at 212-251-0052
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If you think the Computer business is nasty, you should see what is
> > > > happening in the Drug and Healthcare business.
> > > >
> > > > You have these organizations called PBMs stealing from the major
> > > > cooperations, drug companies and the patients, and lying through their
> > > > teeth, playing three card monty with your health-care, while patients
> > > > wind up dieing because of poor medical care.
> > > >
> > > > Its brilliant!
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Microsoft seem docile. And the best part is the dumb fucking
> > > > pharmacists are too timid and stupid to do anything about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ruben
> > > >
> > > >
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://fairuse.nylxs.com
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
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