MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-10-14 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: Three victories
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The only thing I agree with is that we needed to send more troops. Maybe we
would have if Kerry wasn't dragging his feet in the senate and voted
for the increased funding for Iraq. Instead, Kerry is playing both
sides of the the aisle against the middle. He's not proposing anything
which is not going to face the same political consequences in Congress
that Bush has faced, and he's playing a dangerous game with the peace
camp in the Democratic party.
Iraq ***DID** have terrosit. First of them was Saddam Husian and the
Repubilican Guard which ripped babies from incubators in Kuiwait and
wages a terrorist war against the environment by burning all the oil
fileds.
And then he paid $30,000 to the family of each suicide bomber in Israel
but those are Jewish lives, so they don't count.
Then he had terrosist contacts with Al Quada, and supported them with money
and he bribed French and Russian officials to rebuild his nuclear program
after the sanctions would be ended.
So Kerry is full of shit, and his election will kill us ALL.
Ruben
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 03:58:27PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> The only time the US has gone after brutal dictators is when they no longer
> did what the US wanted. Iraq did not have any terrorist except Saddam until
> we removed him and left a power vacuum. If we had, had sufficient troops
> and a replacement ready for Saddam and his Government the terrorist would
> have not have a chance to get in there. Iraq is still a sideshow it's just
> that everyone has taken their eye off the real threat.
>
> --
> "In The Business World
> An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
>
> No one person is smarter than their team!
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Milo [mailto:slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:57 PM
> > To: Michael Richardson; 'Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS'
> > Cc: dnc-002W901JQW-at-mailer.democrats.org; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: RE: [hangout] Re: Three victories
> >
> > Iraq is certainly not a sideshow by any stretch of the imagination,
> > regardless
> > of whether saddam had WMD's.
> > It has now become this country's moral obligation to its own citizens to
> > go
> > after brutal dictators. In fact going after brutal dictators has always
> > served this country well. Sitting and waiting while being lulled into a
> > false
> > sense of security has historically proven to be fatal. Its all fine and
> > dandy
> > to sit on the front porch and watch the world go by on an individual
> > basis.
> > But those sorts of Arkansas politics fail on an international scale.
> > The UN is a worthless organization and has to be gutted, so it can start
> > from
> > scratch, in order for it to be of any worth.
> >
> > Steve M
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:56 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote
> > > You can not win a Guerrilla War with conventional troops (especially
> > > when do not send enough troops). I want to see Bin Laden and Al
> > > Queda mounted in the White House Trophy Room. That is our 1st
> > > priority. Take care of the side shows after.
> > >
> > > --
> > > "In The Business World
> > > An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> > > A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> > > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
> > >
> > > No one person is smarter than their team!
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:12 PM
> > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > Cc: 'Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS'; dnc-
> > 002W901JQW-at-mailer.democrats.org;
> > > > hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: Three victories
> > > >
> > > > > the will to fight. Take a look at our War history. We are going
> > > > after the
> > > > > wrong people with half baked war plans.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's the right people and the plan is a good one.
> > > >
> > > > Tell me Micheal, did you ever have Roaches in the house? Is it
> > > > effective to go after only the roach which crosses your kitchen sink
> > > > or do you need to kill them ALL?
> > > >
> > > > There hasn't been a single attack on the US outside of Iraq and
> > > > Afganastan in 3 years, unlike the 8 years of the Clinton
> > Administration.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds to me like we found the roach nest and are applying the
> > necessary
> > > > poison.
> > > >
> > > > Ruben
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > "In The Business World
> > > > > An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> > > > > A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> > > > > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
> > > > >
> > > > > No one person is smarter than their team!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:35 PM
> > > > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > > > Cc: 'Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS'; dnc-
> > > > 002W901JQW-at-mailer.democrats.org;
> > > > > > hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: Three victories
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh really, they are going to run it under the Naval Blockage of
> > the
> > > > > > Persain gulf? As soon as this moron is elected it is going to
> > > > signal
> > > > > > every terrorist in the world that the US has no stomach for a
> > fight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ruben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 02:32:36PM -0400, Michael Richardson
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Ruben it does not matter who is in the White House if Bin
> > Laden or
> > > > Al-
> > > > > > Quada
> > > > > > > gets a nuclear device. (They are more likely to get it with
> > Bush
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > white House).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > "In The Business World
> > > > > > > An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> > > > > > > A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> > > > > > > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No one person is smarter than their team!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
> > [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:29 PM
> > > > > > > > To: dnc-002W901JQW-at-mailer.democrats.org; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > > > Cc: Ruben Safir
> > > > > > > > Subject: [hangout] Re: Three victories
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kerry sounded like an idiot with that Health reform package,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > more I
> > > > > > > > listen to him, the more I'm certain that NYC will suffer a
> > > > nuclear
> > > > > > > > 'event'
> > > > > > > > if he is elected. I know all you care about is your selfish
> > > > needs
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > power
> > > > > > > > and money, but I'm suffering nightmares now about New York
> > being
> > > > > > > > attacked
> > > > > > > > by a terrorist nuclear weapon, and this hasn't happened
> > since 9-
> > > > 11-
> > > > > > 2001.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kerry is a bad man, who thinks playing games with vicous
> > > > homocidal
> > > > > > > > dicators
> > > > > > > > is just OK, as long as we don't loose our allies. I'm not
> > going
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > again. Never again...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ruben Safir
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:19:51PM -0500, Joe Lockhart,
> > Kerry-
> > > > > > Edwards 04
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Debate Response Team
> > > > > > > > > ---------------
> > > > > > > > > Dear Ruben,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A few minutes ago, the third and final presidential debate
> > > > came to
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > close. Once again, I am about to head over to the "spin
> > room,"
> > > > and
> > > > > > once
> > > > > > > > again I am going to have the chance to talk about a victory
> > for
> > > > John
> > > > > > > > Kerry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > During these debates, John Kerry has left no doubt that he
> > has
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > strength and character we need in a commander-in-chief. He
> > has
> > > > shown
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > American people his command of the facts, steady demeanor,
> > and
> > > > well-
> > > > > > > > reasoned arguments. He offered hope and optimism, and showed
> > > > that he
> > > > > > > > will fight for middle-class families.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Bush campaign has tried to lower the bar for each
> > debate.
> > > > But
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > bar can only go so low.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The bottom line is, when it comes to the concerns of the
> > > > middle
> > > > > > class,
> > > > > > > > George Bush just doesn't get it -- doesn't know how to talk
> > > > about it
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > and has no way to fix it. While he offered nothing but more
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > tired rhetoric -- John Kerry presented real solutions to
> > real
> > > > > > problems.
> > > > > > > > That's the reason why John Kerry won and George Bush lost,
> > and
> > > > > > lowered
> > > > > > > > expectations and spin from the Bush campaign will not change
> > > > this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Tonight George Bush's denials further damaged his
> > credibility.
> > > > He
> > > > > > > > denied we have problems with immigration, No Child Left
> > Behind,
> > > > > > equal
> > > > > > > > pay for women and the minimum wage. Bush pretends our
> > problems
> > > > don't
> > > > > > > > exist, and he won't level with the American people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Again, we need your help to keep the Republican spin
> > machine
> > > > in
> > > > > > check.
> > > > > > > > After three debates you know what you need to do -- let's go
> > out
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > and do it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.democrats.org/debates/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > Joe Lockhart
> > > > > > > > > Senior Advisor
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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