MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-09-02 |
| FROM | From: "Steve Milo"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: Advocacy vs. Zealotry vs. Who Cares?!?
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:57:31 -0400, Billy wrote
> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 04:32:17PM -0500, Steve Milo wrote:
> >
> > The whole concept of comparing people who strongly believe in Linux over
> > microsoft to zealots is just ridiculous.
> > Personally I would not stake my professional integrity on anything that
has
> > to do with microsoft. Ms products simply *do not* win any point when
> > compared to Linux. When someone asks me well if I find this software
for ms
> > and there is no equivalent how do I do that in Linux? I tell them 'you
have
> > to think about what it is you want to do'. More often than not you can
see
> > the gears start turning. The other person starts to quickly realize
that
> > they quite possibly have control over their own hardware. Wow what a
> > surprise!
>
> > What if I want to burn a CD where do I get that software?
>
> > The software is there.
>
> > Is it extra?
>
> > No, it is there, you paid for the software
> > when you bought Suse 9.1 Professional.
>
> That's funny, it's always been free for me..
> I've never BOUGHT a copy of GNU/Linux in my life. Why should I?
>
> I DONATE, but I don't expect to gain ownership of anything by doing so.
I didnt donate so I paid for it instead.
> > Hopefully ms will get beaten back into its corner in the northwest. I
have
> > little doubt that the ignorance level of graduating Comp Sci majors will
> > decrease exponentially.
>
> Why exponentially? Why not linearly or even geometrically?
Perhaps I should start quantifying the results.
> > is because its not on the desktop as predominantely as windows. I
> > told him two things. 1) I challenged him to find a virus that would
> > crash the machine we were using. I told him I would give him a dollar
> > if he found one that caused the machine to freeze or crash or do
> > something it wasnt supposed to be doing. 2) I told him that tons of
> > corporations and the federal government use Linux for their servers.
>
> > You would think that by this time someone would have found a way to
> > compromise those machines.
>
> Gimme a break... Here's the vulnerabilities in Red Hat THIS MONTH:
>
> http://assburger.org/prepu/uilaou
That looks like a pretty short list over the course of four years.
> There's plenty of ways into Linux machines.. Yes it's more
> secure than windows, but don't go around wagging your finger
> (and your dollars) in people's faces.
I certainly will. I have yet to be convinced that I need ms for anything
anymore.
> By the way, I've NEVER EVER EVER gotten a windows virus,
> and I use it as much as I use Linux lately, with no AV software.
I cant speak for my most recent experiences because I dont have a windows
machine anymore.
Steve M
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