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DATE | 2004-08-02 |
FROM | From: "Inker, Evan"
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SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
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And one last comment..Chips can only be infected in the manufacturing stage of production not afterwards.
Regards,
Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
-----Original Message----- From: Inker, Evan Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:40 AM To: 'Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS'; Inker, Evan Cc: 'Paul Robert Marino'; Steve Milo; hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: RE: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
Yes but the chips needed to be infected to start with. If this was the case, then you have a plethera of machines being recalled or hearing about it. CMOS can easily be wiped by either removing the Lithium Ion battery....
Regards,
Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
-----Original Message----- From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:35 AM To: Inker, Evan Cc: 'Paul Robert Marino'; Steve Milo; hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
Yes
But they happen, even in the older machines, the cmos get infected. In fact, there was one manufacturer a few years ago which shipped a bunch of infected chips sets out to the public. All bios have some capacity for memory recall, otherwise they would have no options.
That being said, I doubt that is his problem.
Ruben
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:29:11PM +0100, Inker, Evan wrote: > > Sorry not to chime in earlier but I agree with Rob. As most earlier > BIOS were based on non-writable ROMs chips, finding a BIOS Virus is > extremely rare. As today, some PC Manufacturers are separating BIOS > functions onto a ROM Chip and Hard Drive Partition, it becomes more > possible but still rare. Also Brios are pure crap as our any low end > Compaq/HP machine generally is (I Know from experience.) > > Regards, > > Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Robert Marino [mailto:rob-at-concord.altschools.org] > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:39 PM > To: Steve Milo > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com > Subject: Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus? > > > > Brios are crap that is why youre having problems. a BIOS virus is > possible but rare and machine specific I doubt it. I have personaly > only heared stories about bios viruses ive never seen one and even > then the stories took place in the early 80s, always started with "my > cousins fathers brothers friend had this happen once", and it was > deliberatly planted in the computer they effected by a disgrunteled > programer and even calling them a virus was debatable because they > didnt replicate. it never made any sence to create such a thing in the > first place esspecialy now that PC's are so cheep. its much more > probible the hardware is broken or just bad in the first place. Im > not saying a BIOS virus is imposible because it is, but its also the > most improbible cause of the problem. it is soo improbible I would > never consider it as a posible cause of any problem. "Steve Milo" > wrote .. > > > > Is it possible to get a virus on a BIOS through W2K that affects > > everthing you do on the system? > > > > I tried installing Suse 9.1, I removed all the hard drives installed > > one seperate hd. Wiped it clean, and when I tried to install 9.1 it > > hung, numerous times. I checked the log screen and there was either > > an error decompressing or an inode was locked and couldnt be written > > to or read from. > > > > This machine is a Celeron with 256m of memory, hd is 6gb, it is an > > HP > > Brio with Pheonix BIOS. I have tried a basic install and a minimal > > install. I tried installing with safe mode (nodma, acpi-off, apm-off > > then with dma, > > acpi- > > off, apm on). > > I also reset the BIOS a few times. > > > > The manual says I should set system BIOS shadowing to off. There is > > no setting for that in this thing. > > > > Steve M > > > > -- > > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) > > > > ____________________________ > > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > > Fair Use - > > because it's either fair use or useless.... > > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > This message contains confidential information and is intended only > for the individual or entity named. If you are not the named addressee > you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. > Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received > this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free > as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive > late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not > accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this > message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. > This message is provided for informational purposes and should not > be construed as an invitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or > related financial instruments. > GAM operates in many jurisdictions and is > regulated or licensed in those jurisdictions as required. > **************************************************************************** > > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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