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| DATE | 2004-08-02 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
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I've seen viruses actually corrupt the cmos. They only have to affect memory
register 0x00 and find a weekness in the bios. I haven't seen this happen
since windows 3.1. but I've heard rourmours
Ruben
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:40:11PM +0100, Inker, Evan wrote:
> Yes but the chips needed to be infected to start with. If this was the case,
> then you have a plethera of machines being recalled or hearing about it.
> CMOS can easily be wiped by either removing the Lithium Ion battery....
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 7:35 AM
> To: Inker, Evan
> Cc: 'Paul Robert Marino'; Steve Milo; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
>
>
> Yes
>
> But they happen, even in the older machines, the cmos get infected. In
> fact, there was one manufacturer a few years ago which shipped a bunch of
> infected chips sets out to the public. All bios have some capacity for
> memory recall, otherwise they would have no options.
>
>
> That being said, I doubt that is his problem.
>
>
> Ruben
>
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:29:11PM +0100, Inker, Evan wrote:
> >
> > Sorry not to chime in earlier but I agree with Rob. As most earlier
> > BIOS were based on non-writable ROMs chips, finding a BIOS Virus is
> > extremely rare. As today, some PC Manufacturers are separating BIOS
> > functions onto a ROM Chip and Hard Drive Partition, it becomes more
> > possible but still rare. Also Brios are pure crap as our any low end
> > Compaq/HP machine generally is (I Know from experience.)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Robert Marino [mailto:rob-at-concord.altschools.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:39 PM
> > To: Steve Milo
> > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Re: [hangout] BIOS Virus?
> >
> >
> >
> > Brios are crap that is why youre having problems. a BIOS virus is
> > possible but rare and machine specific I doubt it. I have personaly
> > only heared stories about bios viruses ive never seen one and even
> > then the stories took place in the early 80s, always started with "my
> > cousins fathers brothers friend had this happen once", and it was
> > deliberatly planted in the computer they effected by a disgrunteled
> > programer and even calling them a virus was debatable because they
> > didnt replicate. it never made any sence to create such a thing in the
> > first place esspecialy now that PC's are so cheep. its much more
> > probible the hardware is broken or just bad in the first place. Im
> > not saying a BIOS virus is imposible because it is, but its also the
> > most improbible cause of the problem. it is soo improbible I would
> > never consider it as a posible cause of any problem. "Steve Milo"
> > wrote ..
> > >
> > > Is it possible to get a virus on a BIOS through W2K that affects
> > > everthing you do on the system?
> > >
> > > I tried installing Suse 9.1, I removed all the hard drives installed
> > > one seperate hd. Wiped it clean, and when I tried to install 9.1 it
> > > hung, numerous times. I checked the log screen and there was either
> > > an error decompressing or an inode was locked and couldnt be written
> > > to or read from.
> > >
> > > This machine is a Celeron with 256m of memory, hd is 6gb, it is an
> > > HP
> > > Brio with Pheonix BIOS. I have tried a basic install and a minimal
> > > install. I tried installing with safe mode (nodma, acpi-off, apm-off
> > > then with dma,
> > > acpi-
> > > off, apm on).
> > > I also reset the BIOS a few times.
> > >
> > > The manual says I should set system BIOS shadowing to off. There is
> > > no setting for that in this thing.
> > >
> > > Steve M
> > >
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