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| DATE | 2004-07-06 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a COMPLETE Piece of ...
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This is docuemented that the files are applied alphabetically.
That being said, a few things I'm observing and a few comments.
First of all, I ****stand**** by the subject of this thread. SpamAssasin is
really a lousey program with a poor design. I asked if you've ever seen the
program pin your computers load, and you replied yes.....
Well, in my book, this is the definition of a poor design. Then you said that
if you use the program as designed, and, and I'm paraphrasing here, and you put in
bad input, well, you can expect it to bomb. Ummmm ... no. Just adding something to
the bayes filters in the normal way can not bomb the program and the system if the
program is designed securely and properly.
I'd like to add that the installation of all the parts is a royal PIA, because the
experts putting together the remote blocking lists are not co-operating and are being
bigoted. I, for example, HATE PHP. But I use it and write in it when working with
PHPGroupware, because that is the standard for the project. Having to install the
latest greatest python just to get a greater level of functionality from SA is
just not exceptable.
In addition, the external databases themselves, including the reporting features
has become a full time war. They people just won't get together and create a
single working standard. They are apearantly waiting for Microsoft to force one
on them.
Now, as I'm reading things, I'm coming to understand that by default the spamd
dameon (if that is not redundant) by default, refuses to work with user spamassasin
configuration files because of the ****security hole****...wonderful. How about
making the darn thing secure!
The documentation is HORENDOUS. It is more Horendous than than my spelling.
No clear thought has been given to documentaiton at all. I've got 500 sheets
of paper printed and no useful information. Someone is bucking for a book contract.
Lastly, this this is ***designed*** to easy administration of spam. With as much time
as I've spent reading about it, playing with it, administrating it, debugging it,
teaching it, and wondering why its not doing that it says it should, and rebooting the
system when it pins my server, its usefulness in its primary mission is looking
increasingly dubious.
Ruben
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by this, but one thing I did learn through
> > aggravation is that .cf files are applied alphabetically when SA starts
> > up. Whether that's documented or not, I don't know. But the end result
> > is my global whitelist file is now named whitelist.cf, putting it at the
> > end of the line when the rules are applied. (otherwise it doesn't work
> > reliably) Presumably, per-user rules get applied last, though I haven't
> > actually tested to see if that's the case.
>
> Sounds like it's time for number prefixes like /etc/rc.d uses...
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