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| DATE | 2004-05-01 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] [dank@kegel.com: [Lula] Novell User Group looking for a Linux presentation]
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Here's a laundry list of what they'd like to hear about.
Anyone want to work up a presentation? Giving the
presentation once at Lula before taking it to the
Novell group would make a great dry run...
- Dan
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Subject: Re: [Lula] Novell's SuSE Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:14:25 -0700
From: Mark Perlstein
To: Dan Kegel
References: <4078B264.5010709-at-kegel.com>
<6.0.3.0.2.20040413235720.01ed9608-at-mail.perlstein.us>
<407D4A4B.9070307-at-kegel.com>
Hi Dan
Sorry to take so long to reply to your e-mail. I've been thinking about
this for a while, was outa town for a bit, and we also talked a bit about
it at our meeting last night. I think what we need is an overview of Linux
networking for non-Linux network admins on a basic level, whatever could be
covered in no more than 2 hours from the list below. And the list is a work
in process, too.
An overview of the Linux kernel
What differentiates a Linux server from a Linux workstation?
Basic setup of a Linux Server
After Linux is installed as a server...how do you maintain/manage/customize?
User account setup
Setting and resetting passwords and policies
Setting and troubleshooting file access rights
Printing
Security setup
Wadaya think? Am I on the right track or about to crash? Is this something
you or someone in your group might be interested in making a presentation
on? Re: schedule, June is now out and the only open time slot this year is
November 23rd.
Am curious about another topic...what's been the reaction of the Linux
community to Novell's entry into their world? Is there much, or even any,
ongoing discussion of the situation? Or just some talk when they bought
SuSE and no nothing?
Regards,
Mark
At 07:27 AM 4/14/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Mark,
>thanks for the info. Well, I have two old presentations online
>that might be of interest:
>* http://kegel.com/linux/edu - The Case for Linux in Universities (video
>online, I think)
>* http://www.kegel.com/openoffice/ - Migrating to OpenOffice
>I've also done presentations about Wine, but I don't have
>any of them online. Maybe it's time to do a new one.
>
>Also, here are a bunch of web pages about migrating to Linux;
>I could do a presentation along the lines of one of these, maybe:
>http://www.kegel.com/linux/edu/case.html#choice
>http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44102.htm?DE=1
>http://www.waltercedric.com/pc/suse/migrationToLinux.htm
>http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040329/
>etc.
>
>Probably I would cover both Wine and OpenOffice, and migration
>issues. How's that sound?
>
>Now I just have to check with my wife and see if she can spare
>me in June :-) If not, maybe I could take a spot later in the year.
>- Dan
>
>Mark Perlstein wrote:
>>Hi Dan
>>I've included some of our member's responses to my question below, so you
>>can get an idea what the presenter(s) would be up against. I think the
>>best suggestion is the dumb it down idea. Obviously we need to discuss
>>the presentation topic further, but I would love to get a Linux
>>presentation for our June 22nd meeting, because Novell will be doing
>>their Linux presentation for us in July.
>>**************
>>It would be nice to get a good run down on Linux structure (I think it's
>>based on Unix), inner workings and how it pertains to us. How does Linux
>>work as a server, what can it do, and in what configuration, what are the
>>particulars on what runs on it, etc....
>>**************
>>I would like to see the basic setup of a Linux Server and an overview of
>>the Linux kernel.
>>**************
>>....but let's make sure they dumb it down to our novice level.
>>**************
>>Now, in answer to your query. My guess is that most of our members are
>>not ready to be doing Linux servers and analyzing logs. I think we are
>>mostly in the newbe stage with regards to Unix/Linux.
>>On the other hand, all major Linux/Unix distributions are easy to
>>install, so anyone who is interested, can setup a Linux/Unix workstation
>>- no point covering that topic.
>>What I think our members need first is general familiarity with Linux
>>through daily use.
>>That brings to mind the title of an old book: "What do you do after you
>>hit return?"; or paraphrased: What do you do after you install Linux?
>>Specifically,
>> How do you check that you are patched and how do you apply patches?,
>> How do you maintain/manage/customize your computer?
>> How do you find (to download or buy) and install additional
>>programs?. I remember trying to install a Linux game; the install
>>didn't work and I went back to using the Windows version.
>> How do you run (Windows) programs under Wine?, broadened, how do you
>>replace your Windows computer with a Linux computer?
>>If you want more techie topics:
>> Setting and troubleshooting file access rights
>> Setting and resetting passwords and policies
>> User account templates.
>>If the guy wants, I can bring to the meeting a computer with a bare disk
>>or with a fresh install of whatever distro he wants, or both since the
>>disks are in carriers and swappable. And if the guy could get my game
>>installed, I would be *really* impressed .
>>**************
>>We just had a BOD meeting tonight, and our webmaster will soon be adding
>>a whole Linux section to our Links page. We'll also have something new on
>>the home page pointing folks in that direction.
>>Lemme know whatcha think.
>>Regards,
>>Mark
>>
>>At 07:50 PM 4/10/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>>Mark wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm the Program Coordinator for LANet, the Los Angles Novell users
>>>>group. With Novell's entry into the Linux world, our members are, or
>>>>soon will be, or really should be, clamoring for information about
>>>>Linux. Towards that end I've sent the http://www.lalugs.org/ link out
>>>>to our listserv. Additionally, I like to explore the possibility of
>>>>having someone from the LA LUG community make a presentation at one of
>>>>our monthly meetings later this year, and would appreciate someone
>>>>contacting me about this idea or others along the same lines.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Mark,
>>>I'm the webmaster for lalugs.org. Thanks for posting the link.
>>>Could you perhaps add it to http://www.nui.net/lanet/links.html ?
>>>
>>>What sort of presentation would you be interested in?
>>>There's so much one could do. Anything from an OpenOffice introduction
>>>to setting up a fileserver to compiling a kernel
>>>to developing software in C++ or Java, all on Linux, are
>>>reasonable topics. Hmm. Looking at your past presentations,
>>>http://www.nui.net/lanet/meetings.html
>>>I get the feeling your members are interested in system administration
>>>topics. How about something like the equivalent of the March 2003
>>>talk, but for Linux? i.e. how to centrally collect kernel crash logs
>>>from Linux computers and isolate kernel problems? Might be worth
>>>knowing about for people running server farms.
>>>Just a thought.
>>>- Dan
>>>
>>>--
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>>>for examples of why I'm for regime change
>
>
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