MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-04-05 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
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What's the news of the Subway Advertizing?
Ruben
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 01:58:52PM -0400, Adam Kosmin wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO :)
>
>
>
> Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> " No
> "
> " I'll unsubscribe from hangout
> "
> " Ruben
> "
> " On 2004.04.05 13:09 Adam Kosmin wrote:
> " >
> " >
> " >
> " >
> " > Ruben,
> " >
> " > Unbelieveable. Please stop this crap already. It is so old and so
> " > unproductive. If you don't like messages like the one Mike forwarded,
> " > send it to /dev/null with a procmail filter.
> " >
> " > Adam
> " >
> " >
> " > Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> " > "
> " > " No -
> " > "
> " > " this is not infomration we need to know. We don't need anything from
> " > " crooks and theives.
> " > "
> " > " If I wanted to be on their mailing list which is trampling on NYLXS's
> " > " rights, I would join it.
> " > "
> " > " You forcing this down my throat.
> " > "
> " > " They have zero right to NY fair Use. Their liers, they stole our money,
> " > " undermined our classes, dragged us through YEARS of fraud, stole the NYLXS
> " > " domain etc etc etc. ENOUGH.
> " > "
> " > " Jay Sulzberger and Brett Wynkoop are theives and mispresent our work, and are violating
> " > " our copyrights. Jay walked out of NY Fair Use 2 years ago.
> " > "
> " > " They've been banned for good reason. Don't kick this dog again.
> " > "
> " > " Ruben
> " > "
> " > " On 2004.04.05 12:18 Michael Richardson wrote:
> " > " > Ruben I send this stuff to hangout because I believe this is information
> " > " > that hangout members need to know. Forget about who sent it.
> " > " >
> " > " > --
> " > " > "In The Business World
> " > " > An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> " > " > A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> " > " > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
> " > " >
> " > " > No one person is smarter than their team!
> " > " >
> " > " >
> " > " >
> " > " >
> " > " > > -----Original Message-----
> " > " > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> " > " > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:05 PM
> " > " > > To: Michael Richardson
> " > " > > Cc: krichardson-at-harryfox.com
> " > " > > Subject: Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
> " > " > >
> " > " > > I'm sick of getting stuff from those shitheads which stole the NY Fair
> " > " > > Use
> " > " > > trademark in the hangout mail.
> " > " > >
> " > " > > Ruben
> " > " > >
> " > " > > On 2004.04.05 08:21 Michael Richardson wrote:
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > > --
> " > " > > > "In The Business World
> " > " > > > An Executive Knows Something About Everything,
> " > " > > > A Technician Knows Everything About Something,
> " > " > > > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything."
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > > No one person is smarter than their team!
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > > > -----Original Message-----
> " > " > > > > From: Bob Traktman [mailto:bob-at-metheating.com]
> " > " > > > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:16 AM
> " > " > > > > To: fairuse-talk-at-nyfairuse.org
> " > " > > > > Subject: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > The (very interesting) decision now is online at
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > >http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/RIAA_v_ThePeople/JohnDoe/20040331_BMG_v_John_
> " > " > > > > Doe.pdf
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian
> " > " > > > > Recording
> " > " > > > > Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement
> " > " > > by
> " > " > > > > 29
> " > " > > > > so-called music uploaders.
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared
> " > " > > > > directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright
> " > " > > > > infringement under the current Canadian law.
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > "No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either
> " > " > > > > distributed
> " > " > > > > or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings," von
> " > " > > Finckenstein
> " > " > > > > wrote
> " > " > > > > in his 28-page ruling. "They merely placed personal copies into
> " > " > > their
> " > " > > > > shared directories which were accessible by other computer users via
> " > " > > a
> " > " > > > > P2P
> " > " > > > > service."
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > He compared the action to a photocopy machine in a library. "I
> " > " > > cannot
> " > " > > > > see a
> " > " > > > > real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in
> " > " > > a
> " > " > > > > room
> " > " > > > > full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a
> " > " > > personal
> " > " > > > > copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he said.
> " > " > > > >
> " > " > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> " > " > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing, send mail to
> " > " > > > > nyfulists-at-nyfairuse.org with a subject of: unsubscribe fairuse-talk
> " > " > > > > List info at http://www.nyfairuse.org/lists.xhtml
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > > ____________________________
> " > " > > > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " > " > > > Fair Use -
> " > " > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> " > " > > > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> " > " > > >
> " > " > > --
> " > " > > __________________________
> " > " > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> " > " > >
> " > " > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> " > " > > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> " > " > > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> " > " > >
> " > " > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> " > " > > http://fairuse.nylxs.com
> " > " > >
> " > " > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> " > " > > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
> " > " > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> " > " > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> " > " > > articles from around the net
> " > " > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> " > " > > Brooklyn....
> " > " > >
> " > " > > 1-718-382-0585
> " > " >
> " > " --
> " > " __________________________
> " > " Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> " > "
> " > " So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> " > " that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> " > " proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> " > "
> " > " DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> " > " http://fairuse.nylxs.com
> " > "
> " > " http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> " > " http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
> " > " http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> " > " http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
> " > " http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> " > "
> " > " 1-718-382-0585
> " > " ____________________________
> " > " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " > " Fair Use -
> " > " because it's either fair use or useless....
> " > " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> " > "
> " >
> " > --
> " >
> " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
> " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
> " > it is."
> " >
> " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > ____________________________
> " > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " > Fair Use -
> " > because it's either fair use or useless....
> " > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> " >
> " --
> " __________________________
> " Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> "
> " So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> " that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> " proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> "
> " DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> " http://fairuse.nylxs.com
> "
> " http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> " http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
> " http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> " http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
> " http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> "
> " 1-718-382-0585
> "
>
> --
>
> "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
> lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
> it is."
>
> -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> ____________________________
> NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
> NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
--
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://fairuse.nylxs.com
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-0585
____________________________
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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