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| DATE | 2004-04-11 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: pittance
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There is no supply and demand issue. There is a licensing issue.
Do you really think that anything which 90% of the 'competent' geeks
do can't be learned by the other 140 million adults in the US or the
650,000,000 million adults in India?
And who decides what is competent anyway? The market? If so, it's
doing a pretty poor job of it, especially in this market dominated by
legal monopolies. Anyway, don't learn the lessons of this recession
if you don't want to. At 40, I'm reaching the outgoing part of my career
cycle and have a Pharmacy License to fall back on, which pretty much guarantees
me a living wage, regardless of the insanity which has racked to IT industry
for a long as I can remember, going back over 20 years.
The ball is in the court of the younger folks if they want to finally
professionalize IT or continue being underpaid and unempowered to make the
safe, rational responsible IT decisions which, going into the future, are going
to be increasing important to protect and secure the national money supply,
physical infrastructure, and social fabric of our society.
Ruben
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 10:01:43AM -0700, Neil Bauman wrote:
> Personally, I think it's a simple question of supply and demand.
>
> I think wages will improve as the supply of competent geeks starts to
> evaporate. This, however, is apt to take another year or so. We are
> seeing a lot of jobs posted but it will take time for our supply to
> become more scarce.
>
> I have heard that the number of people going into Comp Sci, for
> instance, is greatly diminished. Like all things, there's an ebb and
> flow.
>
>
> On 4/11/04 at 12:47 PM, ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com (Ruben Safir Secretary
> NYLXS) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 09:36:36AM -0700, DK Smith wrote:
> > > What the fech is going on in the tech world? I am frustrated with
> > > these pay rates. It is very disturbing, career-wise. Take for
> > > example the job posting I share below... The only thing it has to
> > > do with perl-jobs is that Perl must be used somewhere in the 70+
> > > host infrastructure which they want managed and evolved! (so I hope
> > > this post is OK).
> > >
> >
> > Welcome to the real world. This is why most serious working
> > professions have seeked out government protection or unionization
> > over time. Individuals have almost zero chance of affected decent
> > working wages in a brass tacks, no holds bar, laize-fare economy
> > without either a professional License (ie: like attonies, doctors,
> > accountants, plumbers and carpeters), or a Free labor Union (ie Auto
> > Workers, Truck Drivers, UPS Workers, Steel Workers, Construction
> > Workers, etc).
> >
> >
> > Ruben
>
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