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| DATE | 2004-03-01 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Overview of this afternoon's Orgcom meeting
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Thanks Adam
I think we might meet and dicusss issue. I personal don't think that
dropping out is an issue. However, what were they down to, 9 PEOPLE.
Now is problibly the time to start getting more people of a like mind as us
at Orgcom. Why not 2 people from Windows Refund, 2 from the FSF, two
from NYACSH, 2 from the FSCC, 2 from the FSF ....
Ruben
On 2004.02.29 19:54 Adam Kosmin wrote:
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> As most of you know, I had the pleasure of representing NYLXS during
> this afternoon's Orgcom meeting. First off, I would like to thank NYLXS
> for giving me the chance to represent our organization and I would like
> to add that I will be happy to repeat this representation in the future
> should it be warranted.
>
> Over the course of several hours, I took part in many discussions and
> debates, voted on various issues, and even nominated a potential name
> for the organization's planned Expo event. As a result, I feel I have
> learned a great deal about Orgcom which I probably would have missed if
> I were reading the mailing list alone. In light of this understanding, I
> am prepared to offer my recommendation as to how NYLXS should handle the
> matter of Orgcom and hope to formally address this recommendation at the
> next board meeting.
>
> Before I begin, I would like to make one thing perfectly clear. You will
> not see me name individuals who opposed the views (either via vote or in
> debate) that I represented on behalf of NYLXS. Rather, I will address
> Orgcom as the very entity it strives to become. Going forward, I hope we
> will adopt this approach in an effort to minimize the unneeded drama and
> emotion which usually results from such "finger pointing" should we
> continue to explore this relationship.
>
> It is my opinion that Orgcom is not quite ready for NYLXS endorsement
> for the following reasons:
>
> 1. The group is suffering an identity crisis. While a considerable
> portion of the group's members are trying to build a platform to be used
> for the purpose of advancing the Free Software movement, others appear
> to have all together different agendas ranging from more "market
> friendly" Open Source advocacy to a freedom-agnostic approach to a
> technology expo. This lack of concise agreement became most obvious to
> me when I listened to arguments suggesting that the word "Free" is a bad
> word that should be avoided when constructing the group's mission
> statement name for the planned expo. To summarize, I was left with an
> impression of a rock band composed of talented musicians, who's fate
> would be to eventually break up due to "musical differences".
>
> 2. Orgcom has decided that 2 mailing lists will be maintained in order
> to facilitate communication going forward. The first of these will be
> used by the public and its archives will be world-readable. The second
> will be writable by only Orgcom representatives and its archives will be
> closed. For the record, I do not have overwhelmingly strong feelings on
> this but did vote that the second list's archives be world readable. I
> voted in this direction for two reasons: First, I was acting on behalf
> of NYLXS stated opinion on this issue and secondly, because my gut
> instinct tells me that openness is simply the more honorable of the two
> approaches since it creates accountability.
>
> Assuming for a moment that the board members of NYLXS will agree with my
> recommendation, I believe that we should send a simple and polite letter
> to Orgcom which explains our stance and communicates our unwillingness
> to support the group's activities at this time. Care should be taken in
> the wording of this letter so that no bridges are burned since we may
> decide at a later time to seek participation should we either see
> sufficient progress made in these areas, or change our organization's
> views.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Adam Kosmin
>
>
> --
>
> "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
> lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
> it is."
>
> -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
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