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| DATE | 2004-03-24 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA
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> spt-get install spamassassin razor pyzor clamav
>
Forget Apget... it would instantly wreck my sendmail config.
I would do a cpan install, but cpan seems to be broken somewhere.
BTW - There IS something that can be done about spam and email. I'm
increasingly sure email needs to be reconsidered in it's current setup.
The prootocol needs to be simplified and and changed to be more trackable
and serious mail fraud and wire laws need to be extended to email.
I'm getting some 40 emails a day trafficing in illegal narcotics. We are NOT
going to win the spam wars with spamassasin or any other tool because the forces
at work generating spam are foriegn governments, multination corperations and more.
It's inevitably sliding email into complete disarray, making it increasingly non-usable.
If we are serious about finally doing something about this, the first step is to realize
that government regulation is going to have to be the first step. Don Marti is wrong on
this particular subject.
In addition, this idea that we have to attack the senders and not hold the relay services
accountable is ALSO WRONG. I had a customer who, before I got to their system, had an
insecure version of Netscape Mail running which was relaying some 100,000,000 spam a month
until I finally shut it down. And he suffered ZERO economic implications by this lapse in
basic fundemental security.
The FIRST change needed to be made to email is a COST or TOLL BRIDGE which is respected
by every mail server. So I would be able to easily set up a paypal or other banking account
and then setup my mail server to change every incoming mail $0.01, expect for my white list
to be billed to the relay and the sender.
Now send 10,000,000 email out and see what happens. They want to send me god damn spam on
porn, they can pay me or eat shit.
> Note the ClamAV on the end of that. That's your friend the next time
> Microsoft mail clients decide it's time to DoS your mail server with
> their worms.
>
> > It could take weeks to just learn this basic system and a fulltime
> > emply to keep it useful.
>
> Well you might find this hard to believe, but mine doesn't require
> anything of me except a whitelist_from here and there and a cron job to
> grab the rules_du_jour.
>
> - Ron
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