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The Idea is for us to speak to > > our Congresspersons. I plan to tell them about the patriot at the NYLXS, > > INC. headquarters. :-) > > -- > > "In The Business World > > An Executive Knows Something About Everything, > > A Technician Knows Everything About Something, > > And the Switchboard Operator Knows Everything." > > > > No one person is smarter than their team! > > > > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > 1-718-382-0585 > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > Marc Andreessen: "Linux Has Matured" The Web pioneer says big corporate customers tell him that by going to the open-source software, "they're saving a lot of money" He was there at the dawn of the World Wide Web as one of the co-founders of Netscape Communications, the original Web browser company. Since then, Marc Andreessen has moved up the info-tech food chain. His current company, called Opsware, builds sophisticated software that makes it easier to manage large fleets of servers running highly complex tasks. In many instances, that means lots of Linux servers. Advertisement So, Andreessen is in the thick of the Linux landscape and often hears what technologists at big companies think about open-source software. BusinessWeek Online Technology Editor Alex Salkever spoke with Andreessen about Linux on Mar. 27. Here are edited excerpts of that conversation: Q: Why is Linux doing so well right now? A: The mainframe was the dominant way to do big computing, until the 1980s. Then it was Unix workstations with Sun (SUNW ), IBM (IBM ), and HP (HPQ ). But all proprietary versions of Unix ran on expensive, exotic hardware. Sun would sell you a $1 million Unix server. It used proprietary software and sold at very low volumes. Now you can put Linux on Intel (INTC) hardware at a fraction of the cost. That's big news because all the people who worked on Unix can easily migrate to Linux. So it's not only free but it's also on cheaper hardware, and a relatively easy transition. It's sort of like trading in your Lamborghini for a Honda that goes almost as fast. Q: So what has changed with Linux to make chief technology officers more comfortable running it on critical systems? A: Two things have happened. Linux itself matured. Ten years ago it was a toy. Five years ago you could make it sit up and jump and do various things, but it wasn't ready for a database. In the last two years, Linux has matured to become comparable to almost every other commercial operating systems. There's very little it can't do that companies need. The second thing that has happened, which is equally or more important, is that Intel's server hardware has gotten extremely sophisticated and powerful. You can buy a $2,000 server from Dell, and it's just as powerful as a $200,000 server from Sun was five years ago. Q: When you're talking to companies doing a big installation on Linux boxes, besides the hardware cost, why else are they saying they want to go with Linux? A: Another big reason is control of their own destiny. If you look at for 40 or 50 years of business computing, banks, airlines and insurance companies have always bought proprietary products and always been locked into one vendor. Vendors have a monopoly in those accounts because switching off of those systems is too hard. It's kind of like if you buy a Ford car as your first car and that means every car you buy for the rest of your life has to be a Ford. After 20 or 30 years of that, you would be pretty bitter. Remember, these aren't little companies. These are big companies that are being locked in. Linux is the first opportunity they have to get total control over their computing destiny. They can buy their server from anyone. They can get their software to work on any of these boxes. They love that. Q: Is Linux saving anyone real money? I ask because you clearly can save on hardware, but licenses from open-source companies such as Red Hat (RHAT ) aren't cheap. And now that you can run Sun on Intel hardware is there any real savings? A: Most of the studies that show Linux is not cheaper have been funded by the old vendors. You'll typically find an analyst study that was paid for by Sun or Microsoft (MSFT ). That's compromised research. What the customers will tell us, and I am not in the business of selling hardware or operating systems, is that they're saving a lot of money. Morgan Stanley has an 80-20 rule. That rule goes like this: They're replacing 80% of their Sun system with Intel boxes for 20% of the cost. Now that means they need to manage lots of boxes, and they may need more people for that, but they still feel they're saving a lot of money. Q: How has the ecosystem around Linux changed over the past two or three years? A: We are an example of that. Our product can run on a Linux server. And there are more and more commercial software companies that can run on top of Linux. Oracle (ORCL ) in the last year has made a big push on this. The big difference is now there is a big market behind these products. The history of this industry is commercial software vendors follow the operating-system market. Q: You're not a huge fan of Microsoft, but it has been gaining lots of market share. Do you think it has a place? A: The market is going to go 50-50 Linux and Microsoft. And it's going to go 100% on Intel or x86 hardware. Microsoft is the other way to go to commodity hardware. The difference is the skill sets and the software base already out there. You have a large body of people at big companies who are trained in Unix, and they're going to go to Linux. Then you have this whole universe of people in smaller businesses who are used to Microsoft. Those people might be more likely to buy Microsoft servers. I would say Microsoft has a really big advantage in small and medium-size business. They have such a huge installed base. Linux hasn't really figured out yet how to penetrate that market. If a small business has Linux, that's because it's owned by a hobbyist. Another key thing to remember is that everyone coming out of college is familiar with Linux. It has overwhelming market share in colleges and universities. In every computer science program I'm aware of, it's the default language people teach on. They like it because it's open-source, and you can look at how it really works. The reason that's important is because those kids leaving college will enter the workforce and bring those skills to their employers. Q: As Linux moves into embedded devices and out of the server closet, how does that change the software landscape? A: That's an interesting question. Linux is taking over in server software and in embedded software. It's not doing that well on the desktop. What does it mean? It means you can assume that Linux is present if you're building a cell phone or a new personal digital assistant or a new car. In the future, the 50 microprocessor chips in a car that are now running on a variety of proprietary operating systems will run on Linux. If you look at the economics of embedded systems, it's probably a low-margin product line. Because Linux is free, it helps them make a profit. -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://fairuse.nylxs.com http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... 1-718-382-0585 ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging RobM 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> FW: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Pasha 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Power Supply 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) Re: DRM company tracking. 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) Re: DRM company tracking. 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Army to Gates: Halt the free software 2004-03-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Army to Gates: Halt the free software 2004-03-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Power Supply 2004-03-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Power Supply 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Demo CD 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 David Etengoff <edtechmdy-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Please remove my name from mailing list 2004-03-11 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Adam here is the ad FREEDOM-IT 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Guest editorial: Open source for capitalists 2004-03-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Motorola readies music-oriented Linux mobile phone 2004-03-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] GnomeMeeting's PC Conferencing Alternative 2004-03-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use 2004-03-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tonights Meeting 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Review: The Linare Home and Business PC 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Review: The Linare Home and Business PC 2004-03-10 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Local Press on GNU/Linux 2004-03-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] k&r 2004-03-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Open source still faces open legal questions - BS 2004-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source still faces open legal questions - BS Article of the Day 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Open-source databases going mainstream 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Study: Open-source databases going mainstream 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Berkeley Software Distribution operating systems have much to 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] The Berkeley Software Distribution operating systems have much to 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] XFree86 gets underwhelmed by Linux distro support / Suse 9.1 Due Out 2004-03-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] XFree86 gets underwhelmed by Linux distro support / Suse 9.1 Due Out 2004-03-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MEETING ON Wednsday Evening 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting 2004-03-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting 2004-03-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More LAke Placid Photos 2004-03-13 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Minutes for March 11, 2004 2004-03-13 Josh Rabinowitz <joshr-at-joshr.com> Subject: [hangout] Using Perl with SWISH-E: Talk 3/16 2004-03-13 From: "ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night - Tonight 2004-03-13 From: "ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] tech night 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Wireless connection 2004-03-16 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] low balling 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] low balling 2004-03-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PowerBook CDROM is very flakey 2004-03-16 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed! 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed! 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004 2004-03-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSF Event Philadelphia PA March 26, 2004 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Employment Opportunities - NYC Government 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal CIOs tout benefits of 'open source' software 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com] 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004 2004-03-16 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004 2004-03-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Linux Desktop Odyssey, 2004 2004-03-15 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] (fwd) More Supporters of Digital Rights needed! 2004-03-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Court Opens Way to Claim the Public Domain 2004-03-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Fwd: [Patents] Halloween X 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux 2004-03-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Contracts 2004-03-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Opinion: Software Freedom Day 2004 2004-03-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-17 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Luck of the Irish 2004-03-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New York City Contracts 2004-03-17 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] PowerBook CDROM is very flakey 2004-03-31 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart sells PCs with Sun's Linux 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-31 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-31 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-30 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft and DRM 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Week Article on Free Softwatre 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Off to Albany 2004-03-29 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Off to Albany 2004-03-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] (no subject) 2004-03-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 48 Hours on Vacation and the WHOLE WORLD CHANGES - We now have 2 moons like Tattoon in Starwars 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was 2004-03-28 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-28 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a quantum leap") 2004-03-28 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] sound is very low 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] sound is very low 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Realtech card query (previous Subject in error, was "Re:made a 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Made a quantum leap 2004-03-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] A note to the Group 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Java Deployment Developer (onsite), United States, NY, New York] 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl/MySQL web developer (telecommute), United States, va, newport news 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D esktop Linux E valuations 2004-03-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO 2004-03-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Yankee Independently Pits Windows TCO vs. Linux TCO 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Move Could Change Microsoft Strategy 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D 2004-03-25 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed D 2004-03-25 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] "Enterprise Assessment Kit Available Now to Speed Desktop Linux E 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a PIA 2004-03-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Downtown Space 2004-03-24 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging David Sugar 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review 2004-03-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart and Sun share Linux desktop lust 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell to Combine Best of KDE and Gnome 2004-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review 2004-03-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source and Free Software Conference To Be Held at University of 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ? 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] What Is New in SUSE LINUX 9.1 ? 2004-03-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for T 2004-03-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: [nylxs-announce] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Perl Jobs] Mid-Level Perl Programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York 2004-03-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Jobs keep coming 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Hello World 2004-03-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Hello World 2004-03-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS 2004-03-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] An Advanced File System for Linux: JFS 2004-03-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU/Linux Scene Calender for Today 2004-03-21 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] About the Great NYFU and NY Fairuse Flap in 20 years. 2004-03-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout management 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this? 2004-03-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Meeting Canceled until Saturday Night 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this. 2004-03-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Elections 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Unsubscribe 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [DMCA_Discuss] New bill to veto Supreme Court decisions 2004-03-19 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints 2004-03-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Does anyone see the CEO of Brooklyn's fingerprints on this? 2004-03-19 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] You have to change this. 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] You have to change this. 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] low balling 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl/Mason Web software developer (onsite), United States, NY, Park Slope, Brooklyn] 2004-03-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Made a quantum leap 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Want to read something scary? 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of S USE 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] Wireless Card Recommendation of SUSE 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell News 2004-03-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com] 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP Starts Pushing Desktop Linux 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: BricsCAD goes Linux [backoffice2-at-bricscad.com] 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD 2004-03-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nazgul-at-somewhere.com: Re: Embperl programmer needed] 2004-03-18 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise. 2004-03-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise. 2004-03-18 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] RedHat Enterprise. 2004-03-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Overview of this afternoon's Orgcom meeting 2004-03-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Overview of this afternoon's Orgcom meeting 2004-03-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org] 2004-03-15 From: "M. Halegua" <phantom21-at-mindspring.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org] 2004-03-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [Orgcom] NEXT MEETING (3-28-04) [chand-at-chandeeland.org] 2004-03-16 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Orgcom Report to NYLXS 2004-03-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] Orgcom Report to NYLXS [phantom21-at-mindspring.com] 2004-03-26 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday 2004-03-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] We NEED one more person to go to ORGCOM this Sunday NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!