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| DATE | 2004-02-09 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [Orgcom] A bit let down by todays meeting [jays@panix.com]
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On 2004.02.09 02:07 Jay Sulzberger wrote:
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Marco of CFSG wrote:
> Hello, (from Marco at CFSG)
>
> I feel that one of the great strengths of this group is that it
> has attracted a wide participation, and judging from the number of
> people who volunteered to be on the outreach commitee, we may soon have
> even more participation. I find this quite exciting, but...
>
> This next part is going to come off a little strong:
>
> If things don't get more organized, future meetings will be even more
> interminable. It just isn't possible to handle everything by vote,
> especially when it seems that most people generally agree. (a democracy
> by referendum will grind to a halt)
We did well. Much was accomplised, and what was accomplished is what we
needed to do.
>
> We got little done today, and no-one has a clear handful of things to
> complete by the next meeting. We haven't even figured out if everything
> must be handled in meetings which require physical presence, or if there
> are issues which can be handled by email. Basically I feel like
> absolutely everything was put off until a future meeting.
Every committee knows what must be done before the next meeting.
>
> I made a motion to create somekind of think-tank that would come up with
> a proposition about what the structure of this group should be, what
> makes sense for meetings, commitees, etc. Without such a structure I am
> afraid every meeting will turn into an unproductive mess like this one,
> and everyone will constantly be stepping on everyone's toes.
I repeat: The meeting was productive and we moved as fast as could be
expected when starting to set up the formal structures Orgcom needs to
continue strong.
>
> I imagine that a committee should study an issue, listen to some special
> interests and put together a bill which then gets voted on by everyone.
> The goal of the commitee is to put together a bill which will be
> accepted. The group (congress/general membership) votes on the whole
> package, (perhaps asking for words to be amended here and there), but
> not on issues line by line. Many of the discussions today took forever
> because there was not enough context for the motions.
Most lesser questions will be decided by just such a procedure. Larger
questions require ample careful discussion, both via list and face to face.
>
> Though I am not much of an organiser, I will try to propose the
> beginning of a structure for the group, the skeleton of a bill and I
> invite anyone who has ideas about such things to do the same or offer
> amendments to my proposition:
>
> Three officers:
> --pres. vp and sec.
> [terms for election, powers, etc.]
>
> (and/or) Steering commitee whose tasks include:
> --coordination,
> --calling meetings
> --policy _proposals_ (and eventually execution)
>
> Six long-standing commitees:
> --PR,
> --volunteer relations (.org),
> --company relations (.com),
> --program content,
> --venue,
> --tech
> [terms for membership, commitee heads, election/replacement]
>
> Smaller tasks assigned for shorter terms to individuals which are
> responsible for their completion (these tasks may eventually be rolled
> into a commitee, but first represent an urgent need for the group as a
> whole):
> --wording for a mission statement,
> --securing meeting space.
> --brainstorming on title/name logo
> (best will be brought to a vote before the membership)
> --mailing list (done!)
> --design of web-site,
>
> --
> Marco of CFSG
The name and mission statement must be agreeable to all. This will require
serious discussion and respectful consideration of all viewpoints offered.
Orgcom must seek and maintain consensus on several large issues, else we
will have wounding internal fractionation, which will result in truly
unproductive meetings. We must proceed slowly and carefully on the few
large issues. The rest is administrative detail, and one BIG THING: making
sure the work gets done.
oo--JS.
JS of NYFU
http://www.nyfairuse.org
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