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| DATE | 2004-02-09 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] [george@sddi.net: RE: [Orgcom] A bit let down by todays meeting]
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From: "G. Rosamond"
To: "'Marco of CFSG'" ,
Subject: RE: [Orgcom] A bit let down by todays meeting
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:03:04 -0500
Organization: Secure Design & Development, Inc.
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->I feel that one of the great strengths of this group is that
->it has attracted a wide participation, and judging from the
->number of people who volunteered to be on the outreach
->commitee, we may soon have even more participation. I find
->this quite exciting, but...
->
-> This next part is going to come off a little strong:
->
->If things don't get more organized, future meetings will be
->even more interminable. It just isn't possible to handle
->everything by vote, especially when it seems that most people
->generally agree. (a democracy by referendum will grind to a halt)
->
->We got little done today, and no-one has a clear handful of
->things to complete by the next meeting. We haven't even
->figured out if everything must be handled in meetings which
->require physical presence, or if there are issues which can
->be handled by email. Basically I feel like absolutely
->everything was put off until a future meeting.
->
->I made a motion to create somekind of think-tank that would
->come up with a proposition about what the structure of this
->group should be, what makes sense for meetings, commitees,
->etc. Without such a structure I am afraid every meeting will
->turn into an unproductive mess like this one, and everyone
->will constantly be stepping on everyone's toes.
->
->I imagine that a committee should study an issue, listen to
->some special interests and put together a bill which then
->gets voted on by everyone. The goal of the commitee is to put
->together a bill which will be accepted. The group
->(congress/general membership) votes on the whole package,
->(perhaps asking for words to be amended here and there), but
->not on issues line by line. Many of the discussions today
->took forever because there was not enough context for the motions.
->
->Though I am not much of an organiser, I will try to propose
->the beginning of a structure for the group, the skeleton of a
->bill and I invite anyone who has ideas about such things to
->do the same or offer amendments to my proposition:
->
->Three officers:
-> --pres. vp and sec.
-> [terms for election, powers, etc.]
->
->(and/or) Steering commitee whose tasks include:
-> --coordination,
-> --calling meetings
-> --policy _proposals_ (and eventually execution)
->
->Six long-standing commitees:
-> --PR,
-> --volunteer relations (.org),
-> --company relations (.com),
-> --program content,
-> --venue,
-> --tech
-> [terms for membership, commitee heads, election/replacement]
->
->Smaller tasks assigned for shorter terms to individuals which
->are responsible for their completion (these tasks may
->eventually be rolled into a commitee, but first represent an
->urgent need for the group as a
->whole):
-> --wording for a mission statement,
-> --securing meeting space.
-> --brainstorming on title/name logo
-> (best will be brought to a vote before the membership)
-> --mailing list (done!)
-> --design of web-site,
marco:
i think you know where i stand on this stuff.
i *am* for developing a steering committee mechanism, not one that holds
dictatorial powers (wtf are people going to control without some
consensus. . .let's be real).
i mentioned it during the meeting, and i know you shook your head in
agreement, if *no one* is responsible for something, *no one* is
accountable.
if details are put together outside of the main power-wielding meeting,
then voting upon by this entity, we really don't have to worry about
power-hunger issues.
this current discussion should take place in order to prepare for the
next meeting, so that we have some clarity, and develop some concrete
proposals that we can fully discuss online, then have a shorter
discussion to actually decide on at the next meeting.
g
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