MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-01-16 |
| FROM | From: "Steve Milo"
|
| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
|
To me this sounds like youre physically threatening me in one form or
another. Wether an attack can come from you or someone you know I
couldnt say, this sounds like a vague threat to me but a threat
nonetheless.
I gave you my phone number to ease thigs but you couldnt do that.
Instead you chose to exacerbate the problem saying things like: 'We'll
see how tough you are' and calling me 'tough guy'.
I dont know what your definition of 'adults' mean but so far to me it
seems like a street definition. Lastly ending your comment in a vaguely
vilinistic way by saying: 'We will do that'.
Thats really really weird Adam.
Steve M
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Kosmin
Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
>
> Don't put words in my mouth. I never threatened you and only suggested
> that we meet in person to deal with this like adults. We will do that.
>
> Adam
>
>
> Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " That was an interesting turn of events Adam.
> "
> " Here I was naive enough to think that I gave you my phone number
> so we
> " could settle things. But instead you come out and threaten me
> " continually, on the phone and through emails. Granted there is
> no proof
> " and ofcourse for all everyone knows I'm the one stirring up the
> trouble."
> " Youre right Adam, youre right I dont have the guts to stand up
> to you in
> " person. I've done all the fighting I need to do in High School.
> "
> " Why not explain this for starters.
> "
> " " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
> " " > " come over to the United States of America without
> " " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
> "
> " Steve M
> "
> " >
> " > Ok, I'll look forward to our meeting.
> " >
> " > Have a nice day,
> " >
> " > Adam
> " >
> " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " I'll be doing something important later this afternoon.
> " > "
> " > " ----- Original Message -----
> " > " From: Adam Kosmin
> " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:40 am
> " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
> " > "
> " > " >
> " > " > I'll call later this afternoon. I'm doing something
> important now.
> " > " >
> " > " >
> " > " >
> " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> "
> " > " > "
> " > " > "
> " > " > "
> " > " > " ----- Original Message -----
> " > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
> " > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:34 am
> " > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
> " > " > "
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > Got a phone number?
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > Adam
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " > " > " Insulting your ancestry?
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
> " > " > " > " come over to the United States of America without
> " > " > " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " What exactly does this mean Adam?
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " Steve M
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > Just want to give you a chance to show me how much
> " > " > conviction
> " > " > " > you have
> " > " > " > " > by insulting my ancestors to my face. You feel
> " > threatened
> " > " > by that?
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > Adam
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " > " > " > " Is that an indirect threat Adam?
> " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " Steve M
> " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " ----- Original Message -----
> " > " > " > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
> " > " > " > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:18 am
> " > " > " > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
> " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > I'm looking forward to meeting you. When can
> we
> " > " > arrange that?
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > Adam
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " > " > " > " > " Obviously a sign of a small mind, when
> someone
> " > " > resorts
> " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > name
> " > " > " > " > " > calling
> " > " > " > " > " > " and insults.
> " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
> " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Steve,
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > I've had enough of your spoon-fed crap.
> You're
> " > " > " > obviously
> " > " > " > " > an idiot.
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Adam
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > more functional, but it is not
> good
> " > enough
> " > " > " > because
> " > " > " > " > it
> " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > not
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > free
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > (as in
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > speech) and therefore, damages to
> our
> " > " > " > society's
> " > " > " > " > " > ability to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate,innovate, and protect
> our
> " > privacy." > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Actually, more functional is much
> more
> " > than
> " > " > good
> " > " > " > " > enough,
> " > " > " > " > " > if
> " > " > " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " more secure product is available
> from
> " > " > Microsoft
> " > " > " > then
> " > " > " > " > by
> " > " > " > " > " > all
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > means it
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " should be used.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > This is bullshit. This is exactly the
> kind
> " > of
> " > " > " > thinking
> " > " > " > " > " > (common
> " > " > " > " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > peoplewho subscribe to the Open Source
> " > " > philosophy)
> " > " > " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > threatens
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > the adoption
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > of Free Software and (if not stopped)
> will
> " > " > allow
> " > " > " > " > Microsoft
> " > " > " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > build" > whatever toll gates they desire
> upon
> " > the
> " > " > " > virtual
> " > " > " > " > " > roads
> " > " > " > " > " > " > that we use to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate and communicate.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Hey, if I'm the 'common person' who
> " > subscribes
> " > " > to
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > Open
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Source
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " philosphy thats sits fine with me. I
> know
> " > just
> " > " > a
> " > " > " > little
> " > " > " > " > " > more
> " > " > " > " > " > " > than the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " common person though. Sounds like you
> " > missed a
> " > " > " > chance
> " > " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > convince this
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " 'common person' of how to think.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Not because it isn't 'free'..as in
> " > whatever.
> " > " > But
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " because it does the job that is
> required
> " > of
> " > " > it.
> " > " > " > If
> " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > Open
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Source
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " community can come along and create
> an
> " > equal
> " > " > or
> " > " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > " > product
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > then that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " software has earned its positions.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Free as in whatever? How can you not
> " > " > appreciate
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > freedoms
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > granted by
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > the GPL? This stuff is critical and
> I'd
> " > expect
> " > " > " > anyone
> " > " > " > " > " > " > subscribed
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > to this
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > list to be well versed in the benefits.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " I expect anyone who subscribes to this
> list
> " > to
> " > " > be
> " > " > " > not
> " > " > " > " > only
> " > " > " > " > " > well
> " > " > " > " > " > " > versed
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " in the freedoms granted by the GPL. But
> to
> " > also
> " > " > " > have an
> " > " > " > " > " > " > understanding
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " of how the judicial and capitalist
> system of
> " > " > this
> " > " > " > " > country works.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > If we are talking about widgets then
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the only thing that MS or any other
> " > " > proprietary
> " > " > " > " > company
> " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > guilty of is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " defending their products secrets.
> They
> " > " > haven't
> " > " > " > " > " > infringed on
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > freedom of
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " speech, they are using freedom to
> persue
> " > " > 'life
> " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > liberty'.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > If
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS were
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to go out and seek a court order to
> " > silence
> " > " > its
> " > " > " > " > critics
> " > " > " > " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " infringing on freedom of speech.
> But as
> " > far
> " > " > as
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > widget
> " > " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > concerned,
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " MS has everyright to create its
> product,
> " > " > they
> " > " > " > can
> " > " > " > " > run
> " > " > " > " > " > around
> " > " > " > " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > let
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " their sales people tell you anything
> " > they
> " > " > want
> " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > get
> " > " > " > " > " > their
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > product in
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " your hands.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > I don't blame Microsoft for wanting
> world
> " > " > " > domination.
> " > " > " > " > I
> " > " > " > " > " > blame
> " > " > " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > idiotswho aren't bright enough to
> choose a
> " > " > " > different
> " > " > " > " > path
> " > " > " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > " > who
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > are so
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > obsessed with fulfilling their own
> selfish
> " > " > short
> " > " > " > term
> " > " > " > " > " > agendas
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > despite the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > costs to innovation.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, its called the cost of
> convenience.
> " > Many
> " > " > " > " > company's
> " > " > " > " > " > are
> " > " > " > " > " > " > willing to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " shell out a few extra bucks for convenience.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " You missed another chance to convince
> this
> " > " > 'idiot'
> " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > " > believe
> " > " > " > " > " > " > otherwise."
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " But you also missed a whole other point,
> " > MS's
> " > " > " > 'strength'
> " > " > " > " > " > lies
> " > " > " > " > " > " > not in its
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " product but in its marketing.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > The fault is not with MS when a
> network
> " > " > crashes
> " > " > " > due to
> " > " > " > " > a
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " virus, but the IT director who chose
> to
> " > use
> " > " > MS.
> " > " > " > In
> " > " > " > " > turn
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > compromising
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the security of their organizations
> " > system.
> " > " > No,
> " > " > " > " > simply
> " > " > " > " > " > " > because
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " closed source is not a good enough
> " > reason to
> " > " > not
> " > " > " > " > " > purchase
> " > " > " > " > " > " > their
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > product
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " and anyone in this day and age will
> tell
> " > you
> " > " > that." > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > No one who understands and agrees with
> the
> " > " > goals
> " > " > " > of
> " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > Free
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Software" > movement will tell me this
> crap.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, and for the rest of the world they
> " > will
> " > " > buy
> " > " > " > what
> " > " > " > " > they
> " > " > " > " > " > " > think works.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Whether you realize it or not, your
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > statement and thinking has been fed to
> you
> " > by
> " > " > Open
> " > " > " > " > Source
> " > " > " > " > " > friendly" > " > marketing departments. From
> where
> " > I'm
> " > " > " > sitting,
> " > " > " > " > I
> " > " > " > " > " > see that this
> " > " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > goingto be a HUGE problem going
> " > forward.People
> " > " > are
> " > " > " > " > jumping
> " > " > " > " > " > on
> " > " > " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Linuxbandwagon for all the wrong
> reasons.
> " > It's
> " > " > " > like
> " > " > " > " > " > inviting
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > foreigners to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > come over to the United States of
> America
> " > " > without
> " > " > " > " > studying the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution!!!
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Maybe you should tell your ancentry that
> " > came
> " > " > over
> " > " > " > on
> " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > boat
> " > " > " > " > " > " > to go
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " back. Somehow I doubt they learned to
> " > " > appreciate
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " before they hit these shores.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Either way your sending mixed messages.
> One
> " > the
> " > " > one
> " > " > " > " > hand
> " > " > " > " > " > you
> " > " > " > " > " > " > want to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " close the borders off to any new comers,
> " > which
> " > " > by
> " > " > " > itself
> " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > unAmerican.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " But on the other hand you state how
> anti
> " > " > American
> " > " > " > " > Microsoft
> " > " > " > " > " > is,
> " > " > " > " > " > " > an
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " American company.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Still more hypcritical is how you preach
> " > freedom
> " > " > of
> " > " > " > " > speech
> " > " > " > " > " > but
> " > " > " > " > " > " > you want
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " to it cut off from people who dont agree
> " > with
> " > " > your
> " > " > " > point
> " > " > " > " > of
> " > " > " > " > " > " > view. So am
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " I to believe that freedom of speech
> applies
> " > only
> " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > those
> " > " > " > " > " > who
> " > " > " > " > " > " > think like
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " you? If thats true why dont we all just
> get
> " > the
> " > " > " > first
> " > " > " > " > plane
> " > " > " > " > " > to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > North
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Korea, they will appreicate us there.
> Oh
> " > and
> " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > should
> " > " > " > " > " > " > satisfy your
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " requirment for joining on the 'Linux
> " > Bandwagon'
> " > " > too,
> " > " > " > " > they're
> " > " > " > " > " > all
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " elitists there also.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > The reasons to go
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " with Open Source is simply because
> its
> " > " > better.
> " > " > " > Its
> " > " > " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > " > on
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > price
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " point, its better on security, its
> " > better on
> " > " > " > " > " > maintenance,
> " > " > " > " > " > " > its
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > better on
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " support. Simply put, GNU/Linux/Open
> " > Source
> " > " > is
> " > " > " > just
> " > " > " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > for those
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " patriotic souls, is so very
> American.
> " > Open
> " > " > " > Source
> " > " > " > " > got
> " > " > " > " > " > its
> " > " > " > " > " > " > start
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > in this
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " country and is based on the same
> " > principles
> " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > values
> " > " > " > " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > were
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > used
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " when this country was founded. But
> " > using a
> " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > product
> " > " > " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > common
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " sense. If MS creates a better OS
> than
> " > " > GNU/Linux
> " > " > " > I
> " > " > " > " > would
> " > " > " > " > " > go
> " > " > " > " > " > " > out
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > and buy
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. But it doesnt make a better OS,
> it
> " > only
> " > " > has
> " > " > " > a
> " > " > " > " > " > stronger
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > marketing
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " machine. The problem with the Open
> " > Source
> " > " > " > community
> " > " > " > " > is
> " > " > " > " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > too
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > many
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " people are hung up pining away at
> how MS
> " > is
> " > " > bad.
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > We're
> " > " > " > " > " > " > focusing
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > on all
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the wrong points, the focus has to
> be
> " > turned
> " > " > " > away
> " > " > " > " > from
> " > " > " > " > " > MS
> " > " > " > " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > back onto
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Linux. If MS makes a better product
> " > thats
> " > " > fine
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > problems
> " > " > " > " > " > " > are
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " limitations imposed on reverse
> " > engineering
> " > " > for a
> " > " > " > " > better
> " > " > " > " > " > " > product.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > The
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " auto industry does it, the hardware
> " > " > " > manufacterers do
> " > " > " > " > it,
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > McDonalds does
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. Everyone reverse engineers, its
> a
> " > " > normal
> " > " > " > patter
> " > " > " > " > of
> " > " > " > " > " > " > critical
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " thinking. But the DMCA law doesnt
> allow
> " > " > reverse
> " > " > " > " > " > " > engineering,
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > not even
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to *not* make a profit.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Obviously you know very little about
> the
> " > " > history
> " > " > " > of
> " > " > " > " > Open
> " > " > " > " > " > " > Source since
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > you seem to think that it even has
> one.
> " > The
> " > " > term
> " > " > " > "Open
> " > " > " > " > " > Source" is
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > nothing more than a recently created
> buzz
> " > term
> " > " > to
> " > " > " > sell
> " > " > " > " > " > Free
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Software to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > people that don't have the capacity to
> " > " > understand
> " > " > " > the
> " > " > " > " > " > moral
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > arguements of
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > the Free Software movement. That's it!
> (if
> " > you
> " > " > " > didn't
> " > " > " > " > get
> " > " > " > " > " > that
> " > " > " > " > " > " > last" > statement, read it over and over
> until
> " > it
> " > " > " > sinks in).
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Lets leave morals in the gutter where
> they
> " > " > belong.
> " > " > " > Get
> " > " > " > " > off
> " > " > " > " > " > your
> " > " > " > " > " > " > high
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " horse for a few moments. There are
> times
> " > when
> " > " > no
> " > " > " > one
> " > " > " > " > really
> " > " > " > " > " > " > cares about
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " your strong point of view peppered with
> " > curse
> " > " > words
> " > " > " > and
> " > " > " > " > " > indirect
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " insults. It becomes tiring and annoying
> and
> " > " > counter
> " > " > " > " > productive." > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " As far as history goes, BSD seems to
> have
> " > been
> " > " > " > around
> " > " > " > " > for
> " > " > " > " > " > quite
> " > " > " > " > " > " > a few
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " years. GNU/Linux has been making some
> " > pretty
> " > " > strong
> " > " > " > " > " > inroads.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > As far as
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " I can recall they're both Open
> Source..or
> " > maybe
> " > " > more
> " > " > " > " > " > properly
> " > " > " > " > " > " > open
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " source. Dont bother correcting me, I'm
> not
> " > " > " > interested
> " > " > " > " > in
> " > " > " > " > " > your
> " > " > " > " > " > " > point of
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " view peppered with inderect insults.
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " > Adam Kosmin
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Overall you have made an interesting
> effort
> " > to
> " > " > " > pervert
> " > " > " > " > what
> " > " > " > " > " > I
> " > " > " > " > " > " > was trying
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " to say. You have managed to completely
> " > mangle
> " > " > " > anything
> " > " > " > " > I
> " > " > " > " > " > was
> " > " > " > " > " > " > trying to
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " say. While at the same time trying to
> " > insult me
> " > " > " > inderectly." > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > --
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so
> far, in
> " > at
> " > " > " > least my
> " > " > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the
> Court
> " > " > through
> " > " > " > " > enough
> " > " > " > " > " > of our
> " > " > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand
> that
> " > IBM
> " > " > " > clearly
> " > " > " > " > did
> " > " > " > " > " > " > contribute a
> " > " > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into
> " > Linux. We
> " > " > " > just
> " > " > " > " > don't
> " > " > " > " > " > know
> " > " > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > --
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in
> at
> " > " > least my
> " > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
> " > through
> " > " > " > enough
> " > " > " > " > of our
> " > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that
> IBM
> " > " > clearly
> " > " > " > did
> " > " > " > " > " > contribute a
> " > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into
> Linux. We
> " > " > just
> " > " > " > don't
> " > " > " > " > know
> " > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > --
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
> " > least my
> " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
> through
> " > " > enough
> " > " > " > of our
> " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
> " > clearly
> " > " > did
> " > " > " > " > contribute a
> " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
> " > just
> " > " > don't
> " > " > " > know
> " > " > " > " > whatit is."
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > " > " > " >
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " > "
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > --
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
> least my
> " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
> " > enough
> " > " > of our
> " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
> clearly
> " > did
> " > " > " > contribute a
> " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
> just
> " > don't
> " > " > know
> " > " > " > whatit is."
> " > " > " >
> " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > " > " >
> " > " > "
> " > " > "
> " > " >
> " > " > --
> " > " >
> " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
> enough
> " > of our
> " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly
> did
> " > " > contribute a
> " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just
> don't
> " > know
> " > " > whatit is."
> " > " >
> " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " > " >
> " > "
> " > "
> " >
> " > --
> " >
> " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough
> of our
> " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
> " > contribute a
> " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't
> know
> " > whatit is."
> " >
> " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " >
> "
> "
>
> --
>
> "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
> contribute a
> lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know
> whatit is."
>
> -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
>
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