MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-01-16 |
| FROM | Michael Richardson
|
| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
|
Enough no schoolyard meeting. Do not send or respond to each other for the
next few days.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:55 AM
To: Steve Milo
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
Don't put words in my mouth. I never threatened you and only suggested
that we meet in person to deal with this like adults. We will do that.
Adam
Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" That was an interesting turn of events Adam.
"
" Here I was naive enough to think that I gave you my phone number so we
" could settle things. But instead you come out and threaten me
" continually, on the phone and through emails. Granted there is no proof
" and ofcourse for all everyone knows I'm the one stirring up the trouble.
"
" Youre right Adam, youre right I dont have the guts to stand up to you in
" person. I've done all the fighting I need to do in High School.
"
" Why not explain this for starters.
"
" " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
" " > " come over to the United States of America without
" " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
"
" Steve M
"
" >
" > Ok, I'll look forward to our meeting.
" >
" > Have a nice day,
" >
" > Adam
" >
" > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " I'll be doing something important later this afternoon.
" > "
" > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:40 am
" > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > "
" > " >
" > " > I'll call later this afternoon. I'm doing something important now.
" > " >
" > " >
" > " >
" > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
"
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:34 am
" > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > " > "
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Got a phone number?
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Adam
" > " > " >
" > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " Insulting your ancestry?
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " 'It's like inviting foreigners to
" > " > " > " come over to the United States of America without
" > " > " > " studying the Constitution!!!'
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " What exactly does this mean Adam?
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Just want to give you a chance to show me how much
" > " > conviction
" > " > " > you have
" > " > " > " > by insulting my ancestors to my face. You feel
" > threatened
" > " > by that?
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " Is that an indirect threat Adam?
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " ----- Original Message -----
" > " > " > " > " From: Adam Kosmin
" > " > " > " > " Date: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:18 am
" > " > " > " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Re: ogg tutorial
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > I'm looking forward to meeting you. When can we
" > " > arrange that?
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " Obviously a sign of a small mind, when someone
" > " > resorts
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > name
" > " > " > " > " > calling
" > " > " > " > " > " and insults.
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Steve,
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > I've had enough of your spoon-fed crap. You're
" > " > " > obviously
" > " > " > " > an idiot.
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Adam
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Steve Milo (slavik914-at-rennlist.com) wrote:
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > more functional, but it is not good
" > enough
" > " > " > because
" > " > " > " > it
" > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > not
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > free
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > (as in
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > speech) and therefore, damages to our
" > " > " > society's
" > " > " > " > " > ability to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate,innovate, and protect our
" > privacy." > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Actually, more functional is much more
" > than
" > " > good
" > " > " > " > enough,
" > " > " > " > " > if
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " more secure product is available from
" > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > then
" > " > " > " > by
" > " > " > " > " > all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > means it
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " should be used.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > This is bullshit. This is exactly the kind
" > of
" > " > " > thinking
" > " > " > " > " > (common
" > " > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > peoplewho subscribe to the Open Source
" > " > philosophy)
" > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > threatens
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the adoption
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > of Free Software and (if not stopped) will
" > " > allow
" > " > " > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > build" > whatever toll gates they desire upon
" > the
" > " > " > virtual
" > " > " > " > " > roads
" > " > " > " > " > " > that we use to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > collaborate and communicate.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Hey, if I'm the 'common person' who
" > subscribes
" > " > to
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > " > " philosphy thats sits fine with me. I know
" > just
" > " > a
" > " > " > little
" > " > " > " > " > more
" > " > " > " > " > " > than the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " common person though. Sounds like you
" > missed a
" > " > " > chance
" > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > convince this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " 'common person' of how to think.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Not because it isn't 'free'..as in
" > whatever.
" > " > But
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " because it does the job that is required
" > of
" > " > it.
" > " > " > If
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " community can come along and create an
" > equal
" > " > or
" > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > then that
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " software has earned its positions.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Free as in whatever? How can you not
" > " > appreciate
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > freedoms
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > granted by
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the GPL? This stuff is critical and I'd
" > expect
" > " > " > anyone
" > " > " > " > " > " > subscribed
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > to this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > list to be well versed in the benefits.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I expect anyone who subscribes to this list
" > to
" > " > be
" > " > " > not
" > " > " > " > only
" > " > " > " > " > well
" > " > " > " > " > " > versed
" > " > " > " > " > " > " in the freedoms granted by the GPL. But to
" > also
" > " > " > have an
" > " > " > " > " > " > understanding
" > " > " > " > " > " > " of how the judicial and capitalist system of
" > " > this
" > " > " > " > country works.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > If we are talking about widgets then
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the only thing that MS or any other
" > " > proprietary
" > " > " > " > company
" > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > guilty of is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " defending their products secrets. They
" > " > haven't
" > " > " > " > " > infringed on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > freedom of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " speech, they are using freedom to persue
" > " > 'life
" > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > liberty'.
" > " > " > " > " > " > If
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS were
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to go out and seek a court order to
" > silence
" > " > its
" > " > " > " > critics
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " infringing on freedom of speech. But as
" > far
" > " > as
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > widget
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > concerned,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " MS has everyright to create its product,
" > " > they
" > " > " > can
" > " > " > " > run
" > " > " > " > " > around
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > let
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " their sales people tell you anything
" > they
" > " > want
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > get
" > " > " > " > " > their
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > product in
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " your hands.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > I don't blame Microsoft for wanting world
" > " > " > domination.
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > blame
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > idiotswho aren't bright enough to choose a
" > " > " > different
" > " > " > " > path
" > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > who
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > are so
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > obsessed with fulfilling their own selfish
" > " > short
" > " > " > term
" > " > " > " > " > agendas
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > despite the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > costs to innovation.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, its called the cost of convenience.
" > Many
" > " > " > " > company's
" > " > " > " > " > are
" > " > " > " > " > " > willing to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " shell out a few extra bucks for convenience.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " You missed another chance to convince this
" > " > 'idiot'
" > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > believe
" > " > " > " > " > " > otherwise."
" > " > " > " > " > " > " But you also missed a whole other point,
" > MS's
" > " > " > 'strength'
" > " > " > " > " > lies
" > " > " > " > " > " > not in its
" > " > " > " > " > " > " product but in its marketing.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The fault is not with MS when a network
" > " > crashes
" > " > " > due to
" > " > " > " > a
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " virus, but the IT director who chose to
" > use
" > " > MS.
" > " > " > In
" > " > " > " > turn
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > compromising
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the security of their organizations
" > system.
" > " > No,
" > " > " > " > simply
" > " > " > " > " > " > because
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > MS is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " closed source is not a good enough
" > reason to
" > " > not
" > " > " > " > " > purchase
" > " > " > " > " > " > their
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " and anyone in this day and age will tell
" > you
" > " > that." > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > No one who understands and agrees with the
" > " > goals
" > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > Free
" > " > " > " > " > " > Software" > movement will tell me this crap.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Yeah, and for the rest of the world they
" > will
" > " > buy
" > " > " > what
" > " > " > " > they
" > " > " > " > " > " > think works.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Whether you realize it or not, your
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > statement and thinking has been fed to you
" > by
" > " > Open
" > " > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > " > friendly" > " > marketing departments. From where
" > I'm
" > " > " > sitting,
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > see that this
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > goingto be a HUGE problem going
" > forward.People
" > " > are
" > " > " > " > jumping
" > " > " > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Linuxbandwagon for all the wrong reasons.
" > It's
" > " > " > like
" > " > " > " > " > inviting
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > foreigners to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > come over to the United States of America
" > " > without
" > " > " > " > studying the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution!!!
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Maybe you should tell your ancentry that
" > came
" > " > over
" > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > boat
" > " > " > " > " > " > to go
" > " > " > " > " > " > " back. Somehow I doubt they learned to
" > " > appreciate
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > Constitution
" > " > " > " > " > " > " before they hit these shores.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Either way your sending mixed messages. One
" > the
" > " > one
" > " > " > " > hand
" > " > " > " > " > you
" > " > " > " > " > " > want to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " close the borders off to any new comers,
" > which
" > " > by
" > " > " > itself
" > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > unAmerican.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " But on the other hand you state how anti
" > " > American
" > " > " > " > Microsoft
" > " > " > " > " > is,
" > " > " > " > " > " > an
" > " > " > " > " > " > " American company.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Still more hypcritical is how you preach
" > freedom
" > " > of
" > " > " > " > speech
" > " > " > " > " > but
" > " > " > " > " > " > you want
" > " > " > " > " > " > " to it cut off from people who dont agree
" > with
" > " > your
" > " > " > point
" > " > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > " > " > view. So am
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I to believe that freedom of speech applies
" > only
" > " > to
" > " > " > " > those
" > " > " > " > " > who
" > " > " > " > " > " > think like
" > " > " > " > " > " > " you? If thats true why dont we all just get
" > the
" > " > " > first
" > " > " > " > plane
" > " > " > " > " > to
" > " > " > " > " > " > North
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Korea, they will appreicate us there. Oh
" > and
" > " > that
" > " > " > " > should
" > " > " > " > " > " > satisfy your
" > " > " > " > " > " > " requirment for joining on the 'Linux
" > Bandwagon'
" > " > too,
" > " > " > " > they're
" > " > " > " > " > all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " elitists there also.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The reasons to go
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " with Open Source is simply because its
" > " > better.
" > " > " > Its
" > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > price
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " point, its better on security, its
" > better on
" > " > " > " > " > maintenance,
" > " > " > " > " > " > its
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > better on
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " support. Simply put, GNU/Linux/Open
" > Source
" > " > is
" > " > " > just
" > " > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > for those
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " patriotic souls, is so very American.
" > Open
" > " > " > Source
" > " > " > " > got
" > " > " > " > " > its
" > " > " > " > " > " > start
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > in this
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " country and is based on the same
" > principles
" > " > and
" > " > " > " > values
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > were
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > used
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " when this country was founded. But
" > using a
" > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > product
" > " > " > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > common
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " sense. If MS creates a better OS than
" > " > GNU/Linux
" > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > would
" > " > " > " > " > go
" > " > " > " > " > " > out
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > and buy
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. But it doesnt make a better OS, it
" > only
" > " > has
" > " > " > a
" > " > " > " > " > stronger
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > marketing
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " machine. The problem with the Open
" > Source
" > " > " > community
" > " > " > " > is
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > too
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > many
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " people are hung up pining away at how MS
" > is
" > " > bad.
" > " > " >
" > " > " > " > We're
" > " > " > " > " > " > focusing
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > on all
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " the wrong points, the focus has to be
" > turned
" > " > " > away
" > " > " > " > from
" > " > " > " > " > MS
" > " > " > " > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > back onto
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " Linux. If MS makes a better product
" > thats
" > " > fine
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > problems
" > " > " > " > " > " > are
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " limitations imposed on reverse
" > engineering
" > " > for a
" > " > " > " > better
" > " > " > " > " > " > product.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > The
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " auto industry does it, the hardware
" > " > " > manufacterers do
" > " > " > " > it,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > McDonalds does
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " it. Everyone reverse engineers, its a
" > " > normal
" > " > " > patter
" > " > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > " > " > critical
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " thinking. But the DMCA law doesnt allow
" > " > reverse
" > " > " > " > " > " > engineering,
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > not even
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > " to *not* make a profit.
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Obviously you know very little about the
" > " > history
" > " > " > of
" > " > " > " > Open
" > " > " > " > " > " > Source since
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > you seem to think that it even has one.
" > The
" > " > term
" > " > " > "Open
" > " > " > " > " > Source" is
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > nothing more than a recently created buzz
" > term
" > " > to
" > " > " > sell
" > " > " > " > " > Free
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Software to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > people that don't have the capacity to
" > " > understand
" > " > " > the
" > " > " > " > " > moral
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > arguements of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > the Free Software movement. That's it! (if
" > you
" > " > " > didn't
" > " > " > " > get
" > " > " > " > " > that
" > " > " > " > " > " > last" > statement, read it over and over until
" > it
" > " > " > sinks in).
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Lets leave morals in the gutter where they
" > " > belong.
" > " > " > Get
" > " > " > " > off
" > " > " > " > " > your
" > " > " > " > " > " > high
" > " > " > " > " > " > " horse for a few moments. There are times
" > when
" > " > no
" > " > " > one
" > " > " > " > really
" > " > " > " > " > " > cares about
" > " > " > " > " > " > " your strong point of view peppered with
" > curse
" > " > words
" > " > " > and
" > " > " > " > " > indirect
" > " > " > " > " > " > " insults. It becomes tiring and annoying and
" > " > counter
" > " > " > " > productive." > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " As far as history goes, BSD seems to have
" > been
" > " > " > around
" > " > " > " > for
" > " > " > " > " > quite
" > " > " > " > " > " > a few
" > " > " > " > " > " > " years. GNU/Linux has been making some
" > pretty
" > " > strong
" > " > " > " > " > inroads.
" > " > " > " > " > " > As far as
" > " > " > " > " > " > " I can recall they're both Open Source..or
" > maybe
" > " > more
" > " > " > " > " > properly
" > " > " > " > " > " > open
" > " > " > " > " > " > " source. Dont bother correcting me, I'm not
" > " > " > interested
" > " > " > " > in
" > " > " > " > " > your
" > " > " > " > " > " > point of
" > " > " > " > " > " > " view peppered with inderect insults.
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > " > Adam Kosmin
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Overall you have made an interesting effort
" > to
" > " > " > pervert
" > " > " > " > what
" > " > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > " > was trying
" > " > " > " > " > " > " to say. You have managed to completely
" > mangle
" > " > " > anything
" > " > " > " > I
" > " > " > " > " > was
" > " > " > " > " > " > trying to
" > " > " > " > " > " > " say. While at the same time trying to
" > insult me
" > " > " > inderectly." > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > " Steve M
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in
" > at
" > " > " > least my
" > " > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
" > " > through
" > " > " > " > enough
" > " > " > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that
" > IBM
" > " > " > clearly
" > " > " > " > did
" > " > " > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into
" > Linux. We
" > " > " > just
" > " > " > " > don't
" > " > " > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
" > " > least my
" > " > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court
" > through
" > " > " > enough
" > " > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
" > " > clearly
" > " > " > did
" > " > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
" > " > just
" > " > " > don't
" > " > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " > "
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > --
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at
" > least my
" > " > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
" > " > enough
" > " > " > of our
" > " > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM
" > clearly
" > " > did
" > " > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We
" > just
" > " > don't
" > " > " > know
" > " > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " > " >
" > " > " > "
" > " > " > "
" > " > " >
" > " > " > --
" > " > " >
" > " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > " > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through
" > enough
" > " > of our
" > " > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly
" > did
" > " > " > contribute a
" > " > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just
" > don't
" > " > know
" > " > " > whatit is."
" > " > " >
" > " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " > " >
" > " > "
" > " > "
" > " >
" > " > --
" > " >
" > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough
" > of our
" > " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
" > " > contribute a
" > " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't
" > know
" > " > whatit is."
" > " >
" > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" > " >
" > "
" > "
" >
" > --
" >
" > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
" > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did
" > contribute a
" > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know
" > whatit is."
" >
" > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" >
"
"
--
"Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
it is."
-- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
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