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| DATE | 2004-01-22 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] bring a baby to the expo
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This is closer to the truth than other ideas what the expo is for. Ultimately
the goal of LWE is for the profitability of IDG. Initially, the show
had a great balence between business and communitee related functions.
One of the wonders of Free Software is that the line between enterprise
interests, developers, and end users is particically erased. The initial
shows had a good balence between the community aspects and salesmanship
for large corperations. Large corperations view clients as an exploitable
resource. The difference in the Free Software community is substantial
and it is very difficult for people steeped on corperate culture, let alone
MBA's and Marketing experts, to open their minds to a different kind of
relationship between a large offering of products and its user base.
Beginning last year, it was obvious that the balence is disrupted, and although
LWE still allows for a large amount of cross-polination, it is now, IMO, failing
as a tool for the community. Just looking at the shrinking .org pavillian and
the awarding of MS for Unix tools, it becomes clear that New York needs a
different kind of show which re-establishes the center of the the event.
In this light, this is why David Sugar is trying to get us to create a new show
for next year, one which is more in line with the expected goals of the the
whole community. And hence, we are going to Lake Placid next Weekend to lay
down the fundemental plans for such an event.
I hope that people take the oppurtunity to meet with us there to help shape a
successfull program.
Ruben
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:53:37AM -0500, mylar wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:52:26 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >>Yeah, it says that but the line above says:
> >>
> >> No one under the age of 12 will be permitted on the show
> >> floor. Registrants between 12 and 16 years of age MUST be accompanied
> >> by a parent or legal guardian who must also be registered.
> >>
> >>It's probably about kidnapping liability. even though you got a
> >>back/chest pack, the security will be thinking no children in the
> >>building. Maybe the security will be lax, really. But I would expect a
> >>fight and have an alternate plan if I were you.
> >Babies do not buy linux products, hence they are not conductive to trade
> >show. People with babies in tow rarely are looking for anything other
> >than
> >diapers, and are rarely paying enough attention for salesmen to bother
> >trying to sell to such.
> >
> >Not to mention that having many people with children is *not* conductive
> >to trade show appearance and atmosphere. It's a trade show, not a
> >kindergarden.
> >
> >Keep in mind, LWE isn't for you, developers or users. It is for people
> >who
> >want to spend money on linux-related items.
> >
> >-alex
>
> Precisely right. I also think the exclusion of children has not so much to
> do with kidnapping concerns as it has to do with safety and liability
> issues. Often kids tend to do things that can result in injury and
> ultimately lead to lawsuits. In addition a large trade show is a great
> place for children to become lost, particularly while the parents
> attention is turned towards a discussion with a salesperson and away from
> the children. It can take only a matter of seconds for a child to become
> lost. In addition I do agree, it is a trade show designed to sell
> products to to professional adults capable of making purchasing decisions
> in the business environment.. That generally excludes most children.
> Furthermore the nuisance and distraction of people bumping other people
> with strollers, kids running around and bumping into you while you are
> having a serious discussion with a salesperson can be very annoying and
> distracting. I do not dislike children, although I have none of my own,
> but I simply do not feel a trade show is the place for kids.
>
> Mylar
>
> >
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