MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-01-27 |
| FROM | Adam Kosmin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
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Yep. Understood.
What is NYLXS' postition? Will we support an expo that advocates the
Open Source campaign or are we prepared to dedicate our resources to one
that promotes Free Software (and isn't embarrassed to say so).
I ask because I want to be sure that I'm onboard with the rest of the
crew that plans to attend this weekend's meeting at Lake Placid.
Thanks,
Adam
Michael Richardson (MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us) wrote:
"
" This group only had one meeting. The next meeting should determine what the
" focus is.
"
" -----Original Message-----
" From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
" Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:16 PM
" To: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
" Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
" Subject: Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
"
"
"
" This looks bad. Although I did not hear Jay's original comments, I'm
" dissapointed with the agenda I see below. Therefore, I pose this
" question to the group:
"
" What is the focus of the upcoming conference/expo?
"
" If Open Source is the focus, I'll go my own way simply because I believe
" that the Open Source campaign is doing great damage by bastardizing the
" efforts of the Free Software movement.
"
" If Free Sofware is the focus, then I will support it.
"
" Adam Kosmin
"
"
"
" Mike Richardson - (NYLXS: President) (miker-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
" "
" "
" "
" " On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT wrote:
" "
" " >
" " >
" " > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, John Bajana-Bacalle wrote:
" " >
" " > > * George Rosamond [20040125 22:49]:
" " > > > jay:
" " > > >
" " > > > it's clear you've missed the entire point of this operation.
" " > > >
" " > > > i understand you walked in an hour and a half late into the meeting,
" but
" " > > > we have collectively decided to proceed in a certain direction.
" " > > >
" " > > > if you and/or your organization are not on the same page and you'd
" " > > > rather take you energies elsewhere, that's fine.
" " > > >
" " > > > we are planning to organize a technical conference for august 2005.
" " > > >
" " > > > it is not a debate about licensing, it's not a counter-cultural
" " > > > gathering.
" " > > >
" " > > > what i gathered from the meeting, which i did attend in its
" entirety, is
" " > > > that everyone understands that a large vacuum has been left with the
" " > > > likely flights of linux expo and macworld. we are looking to fill
" that
" " > > > gap, in the spirit of linuxtag, with an event that is weighed in the
" " > > > direction of technical issues of the day and less towards marketing.
" " > >
" " > > George's description is accurate. We aim for a LinuxTag-like
" conference,
" " > > a melange between a hacker conference and a marketing exposition, with
" " > > the preponderous emphasis on hardcore tech. IOW, very much a la *BSD
" " > > conferences throughout Europe and the rest of the world. Which is
" " > > LinuxTag's aim, on which we are patterning this effort.
" " > >
" " > > John
" " > >
" " > > --
" " > > John Bacalle
" " > > jbacalle-at-nylug.org
" john-at-unixen.org
" " > >
" " > > > democracy is about a group working together with a common point.
" little
" " > > > of your email has any connection to what has been collectively
" decided
" " > > > by this group.
" " > > >
" " > > > g
" " > > >
" " > > >
" " > > > ->I believe that we should aim at putting together a gathering
" " > > > ->this year.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->We should invite MOUSE and PerScolas and various food and
" " > > > ->ceramics and housing and music tribes and "coops" to join us.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->I believe the first gathering should have a limited number of
" " > > > ->points of attack.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->Suggested points of attack:
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->1. Government procurement rules, with special attention to
" " > > > ->New York City Public Schools.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->2. Advantages of free software according to major cults:
" " > > > -> a. Communist
" " > > > -> b. Anarchist
" " > > > -> c. Middle of the Road Classic Soft Rock
" " > > > -> d. Puritan Extremist
" " > > > -> e. FUNKDAFUNK
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->3. Right to own and practical power to control the computers
" " > > > ->in our houses.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->4. Radical respectability of all free software licenses,
" " > > > ->except the BSD style licenses, which are nearly OUTRIGHT GIFT
" " > > > ->DECLARATIONS and thus of such great power as to be dangerous.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->And we should not limit our new alliance to arranging our new
" " > > > ->gathering.
" " > > > ->
" " > > > ->oo--JS.
" " > > > ->_______________________________________________
" " > > > ->Orgcom mailing list
" " > > > ->Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" " > > > ->->http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" " > > > ->
" " > > >
" " > > > _______________________________________________
" " > > > Orgcom mailing list
" " > > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" " > > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" " > > _______________________________________________
" " > > Orgcom mailing list
" " > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org
" " > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom
" " > >
" " >
" "
" " ____________________________
" " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
" " Fair Use -
" " because it's either fair use or useless....
" " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
" "
"
" --
"
" "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
" line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
" complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
" lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
" it is."
"
" -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
" ____________________________
" NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
" Fair Use -
" because it's either fair use or useless....
" NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
" ____________________________
" NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
" Fair Use -
" because it's either fair use or useless....
" NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
"
--
"Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
it is."
-- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
____________________________
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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