MESSAGE
| DATE | 2004-01-28 |
| FROM | Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
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thats one of the topics for lake placid.
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Adam Kosmin wrote:
>
> Yep. Understood.
>
> What is NYLXS' postition? Will we support an expo that advocates the
> Open Source campaign or are we prepared to dedicate our resources to one
> that promotes Free Software (and isn't embarrassed to say so).
>
> I ask because I want to be sure that I'm onboard with the rest of the
> crew that plans to attend this weekend's meeting at Lake Placid.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
> Michael Richardson (MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us) wrote:
> "
> " This group only had one meeting. The next meeting should determine what the
> " focus is.
> "
> " -----Original Message-----
> " From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
> " Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:16 PM
> " To: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
> " Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> " Subject: Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
> "
> "
> "
> " This looks bad. Although I did not hear Jay's original comments, I'm
> " dissapointed with the agenda I see below. Therefore, I pose this
> " question to the group:
> "
> " What is the focus of the upcoming conference/expo?
> "
> " If Open Source is the focus, I'll go my own way simply because I believe
> " that the Open Source campaign is doing great damage by bastardizing the
> " efforts of the Free Software movement.
> "
> " If Free Sofware is the focus, then I will support it.
> "
> " Adam Kosmin
> "
> "
> "
> " Mike Richardson - (NYLXS: President) (miker-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
> " "
> " "
> " "
> " " On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT wrote:
> " "
> " " >
> " " >
> " " > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, John Bajana-Bacalle wrote:
> " " >
> " " > > * George Rosamond [20040125 22:49]:
> " " > > > jay:
> " " > > >
> " " > > > it's clear you've missed the entire point of this operation.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > i understand you walked in an hour and a half late into the meeting,
> " but
> " " > > > we have collectively decided to proceed in a certain direction.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > if you and/or your organization are not on the same page and you'd
> " " > > > rather take you energies elsewhere, that's fine.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > we are planning to organize a technical conference for august 2005.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > it is not a debate about licensing, it's not a counter-cultural
> " " > > > gathering.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > what i gathered from the meeting, which i did attend in its
> " entirety, is
> " " > > > that everyone understands that a large vacuum has been left with the
> " " > > > likely flights of linux expo and macworld. we are looking to fill
> " that
> " " > > > gap, in the spirit of linuxtag, with an event that is weighed in the
> " " > > > direction of technical issues of the day and less towards marketing.
> " " > >
> " " > > George's description is accurate. We aim for a LinuxTag-like
> " conference,
> " " > > a melange between a hacker conference and a marketing exposition, with
> " " > > the preponderous emphasis on hardcore tech. IOW, very much a la *BSD
> " " > > conferences throughout Europe and the rest of the world. Which is
> " " > > LinuxTag's aim, on which we are patterning this effort.
> " " > >
> " " > > John
> " " > >
> " " > > --
> " " > > John Bacalle
> " " > > jbacalle-at-nylug.org
> " john-at-unixen.org
> " " > >
> " " > > > democracy is about a group working together with a common point.
> " little
> " " > > > of your email has any connection to what has been collectively
> " decided
> " " > > > by this group.
> " " > > >
> " " > > > g
> " " > > >
> " " > > >
> " " > > > ->I believe that we should aim at putting together a gathering
> " " > > > ->this year.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->We should invite MOUSE and PerScolas and various food and
> " " > > > ->ceramics and housing and music tribes and "coops" to join us.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->I believe the first gathering should have a limited number of
> " " > > > ->points of attack.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->Suggested points of attack:
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->1. Government procurement rules, with special attention to
> " " > > > ->New York City Public Schools.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->2. Advantages of free software according to major cults:
> " " > > > -> a. Communist
> " " > > > -> b. Anarchist
> " " > > > -> c. Middle of the Road Classic Soft Rock
> " " > > > -> d. Puritan Extremist
> " " > > > -> e. FUNKDAFUNK
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->3. Right to own and practical power to control the computers
> " " > > > ->in our houses.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->4. Radical respectability of all free software licenses,
> " " > > > ->except the BSD style licenses, which are nearly OUTRIGHT GIFT
> " " > > > ->DECLARATIONS and thus of such great power as to be dangerous.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->And we should not limit our new alliance to arranging our new
> " " > > > ->gathering.
> " " > > > ->
> " " > > > ->oo--JS.
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> " " > > > ->
> " " > > >
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> " "
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> " "
> "
> " --
> "
> " "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> " line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> " complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
> " lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
> " it is."
> "
> " -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
> " ____________________________
> " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " Fair Use -
> " because it's either fair use or useless....
> " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> " ____________________________
> " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> " Fair Use -
> " because it's either fair use or useless....
> " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> "
>
> --
>
> "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my
> line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our
> complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a
> lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what
> it is."
>
> -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03
>
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