MESSAGE
DATE | 2004-01-28 |
FROM | Adam Kosmin
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay
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Good. I'm there.
Adam
Mike Richardson - (NYLXS: President) (miker-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote: " thats one of the topics for lake placid. " " On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Adam Kosmin wrote: " " > " > Yep. Understood. " > " > What is NYLXS' postition? Will we support an expo that advocates the " > Open Source campaign or are we prepared to dedicate our resources to one " > that promotes Free Software (and isn't embarrassed to say so). " > " > I ask because I want to be sure that I'm onboard with the rest of the " > crew that plans to attend this weekend's meeting at Lake Placid. " > " > Thanks, " > " > Adam " > " > Michael Richardson (MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us) wrote: " > " " > " This group only had one meeting. The next meeting should determine what the " > " focus is. " > " " > " -----Original Message----- " > " From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com] " > " Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:16 PM " > " To: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT " > " Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com " > " Subject: Re: [hangout] Another response to Jay " > " " > " " > " " > " This looks bad. Although I did not hear Jay's original comments, I'm " > " dissapointed with the agenda I see below. Therefore, I pose this " > " question to the group: " > " " > " What is the focus of the upcoming conference/expo? " > " " > " If Open Source is the focus, I'll go my own way simply because I believe " > " that the Open Source campaign is doing great damage by bastardizing the " > " efforts of the Free Software movement. " > " " > " If Free Sofware is the focus, then I will support it. " > " " > " Adam Kosmin " > " " > " " > " " > " Mike Richardson - (NYLXS: President) (miker-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote: " > " " " > " " " > " " " > " " On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT wrote: " > " " " > " " > " > " " > " > " " > On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, John Bajana-Bacalle wrote: " > " " > " > " " > > * George Rosamond [20040125 22:49]: " > " " > > > jay: " > " " > > > " > " " > > > it's clear you've missed the entire point of this operation. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > i understand you walked in an hour and a half late into the meeting, " > " but " > " " > > > we have collectively decided to proceed in a certain direction. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > if you and/or your organization are not on the same page and you'd " > " " > > > rather take you energies elsewhere, that's fine. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > we are planning to organize a technical conference for august 2005. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > it is not a debate about licensing, it's not a counter-cultural " > " " > > > gathering. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > what i gathered from the meeting, which i did attend in its " > " entirety, is " > " " > > > that everyone understands that a large vacuum has been left with the " > " " > > > likely flights of linux expo and macworld. we are looking to fill " > " that " > " " > > > gap, in the spirit of linuxtag, with an event that is weighed in the " > " " > > > direction of technical issues of the day and less towards marketing. " > " " > > " > " " > > George's description is accurate. We aim for a LinuxTag-like " > " conference, " > " " > > a melange between a hacker conference and a marketing exposition, with " > " " > > the preponderous emphasis on hardcore tech. IOW, very much a la *BSD " > " " > > conferences throughout Europe and the rest of the world. Which is " > " " > > LinuxTag's aim, on which we are patterning this effort. " > " " > > " > " " > > John " > " " > > " > " " > > -- " > " " > > John Bacalle " > " " > > jbacalle-at-nylug.org " > " john-at-unixen.org " > " " > > " > " " > > > democracy is about a group working together with a common point. " > " little " > " " > > > of your email has any connection to what has been collectively " > " decided " > " " > > > by this group. " > " " > > > " > " " > > > g " > " " > > > " > " " > > > " > " " > > > ->I believe that we should aim at putting together a gathering " > " " > > > ->this year. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->We should invite MOUSE and PerScolas and various food and " > " " > > > ->ceramics and housing and music tribes and "coops" to join us. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->I believe the first gathering should have a limited number of " > " " > > > ->points of attack. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->Suggested points of attack: " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->1. Government procurement rules, with special attention to " > " " > > > ->New York City Public Schools. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->2. Advantages of free software according to major cults: " > " " > > > -> a. Communist " > " " > > > -> b. Anarchist " > " " > > > -> c. Middle of the Road Classic Soft Rock " > " " > > > -> d. Puritan Extremist " > " " > > > -> e. FUNKDAFUNK " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->3. Right to own and practical power to control the computers " > " " > > > ->in our houses. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->4. Radical respectability of all free software licenses, " > " " > > > ->except the BSD style licenses, which are nearly OUTRIGHT GIFT " > " " > > > ->DECLARATIONS and thus of such great power as to be dangerous. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->And we should not limit our new alliance to arranging our new " > " " > > > ->gathering. " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > ->oo--JS. " > " " > > > ->_______________________________________________ " > " " > > > ->Orgcom mailing list " > " " > > > ->Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org " > " " > > > ->->http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom " > " " > > > -> " > " " > > > " > " " > > > _______________________________________________ " > " " > > > Orgcom mailing list " > " " > > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org " > " " > > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom " > " " > > _______________________________________________ " > " " > > Orgcom mailing list " > " " > > Orgcom-at-lists.nycbug.org " > " " > > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/orgcom " > " " > > " > " " > " > " " " > " " ____________________________ " > " " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene " > " " Fair Use - " > " " because it's either fair use or useless.... " > " " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc " > " " " > " " > " -- " > " " > " "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my " > " line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our " > " complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a " > " lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what " > " it is." " > " " > " -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03 " > " ____________________________ " > " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene " > " Fair Use - " > " because it's either fair use or useless.... " > " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc " > " ____________________________ " > " NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene " > " Fair Use - " > " because it's either fair use or useless.... " > " NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc " > " " > " > -- " > " > "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my " > line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our " > complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a " > lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what " > it is." " > " > -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03 " > " "
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"Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what it is."
-- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03 ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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