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DATE | 2003-09-11 |
FROM | Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Microsoft bit by patents
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Why doesn't Micro$oft pay Eolas a licensing fee?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote:
> > E patent endgame detailed > > By Paul Festa Staff Writer, CNET News.com September 11, 2003, 12:22 PM PT > > Microsoft has suffered another legal setback in the patent dispute with > software developer Eolas and is now advising Web authors on workarounds, > as new details emerge of its plans to tweak Internet Explorer. > > A federal judge last week rejected Microsoft's post-trial claim that > Eolas had misrepresented the facts in the patent case, which claimed the > software giant had stolen browser technology relating to plug-ins. The > ruling came after a $521 million verdict against the software giant last > month, and ends Microsoft's first attempt to challenge the result. > > Several more post-trial motions remain to be dispensed, and Microsoft > doesn't expect a final judgment in this round to be handed down until > October or November. After that, Microsoft has 30 days to decide whether > to appeal, which it has pledged to do. > Still, last week's loss on claims of "inequitable conduct" heightened > the sense that not only Microsoft but the entire Web may soon be forced > to make substantial adjustments--and that pages around the Web and on > private intranets will have to be rewritten to work with an altered IE. > > "If you're currently using a plug-in, you will have to change your > pages quite significantly," said one person familiar with Microsoft's > post-verdict plans. "There might be tools to help you do so, but > currently they don't exist." > > Regardless of whether the court orders Microsoft to change IE, the > software giant has been conferring with its own engineers and those of > companies that rely on the browser's ability to automatically launch > and display multimedia programs with plug-ins--an ability the court > held to be, in its current form, an infringement of the Eolas patent. > Now Microsoft, while expressing optimism that it will ultimately prevail > over Eolas in the courts, is advising Web authors to take precautions > and prepare for a post-Eolas world. > > "We believe we are going to be successful, but the wrong thing to do is > to sit back and wait for the legal process to play out," said Michael > Wallent, a general manager in Microsoft's Windows division who ran > the IE team for versions 5.5 and 6, and who has been involved in the > Eolas defense since the suit was filed. "There are technologies that > are already used today (that aren't covered by the verdict) and all we > are saying is, given the choice, use the technologies that are already > available to you." > > Those techniques involve using scripting languages and the set of > technologies marketed as dynamic HTML (DHTML) to launch external > applications--a commonly available and familiar method that Microsoft > does not believe infringes on the patent. > > Eolas and its lawyers did not return calls seeking comment. > > Wallent cited CNN.com as an example of a site that uses Macromedia > Flash--a technology many consider particularly vulnerable to the patent's > claims--in a non-infringing way. > > While Microsoft dispenses advice and stays mum on details of the > workarounds it is contemplating for IE, sources who attended the > company's recent strategy session with the World Wide Web Consortium > (W3C)--hosted in San Francisco by Macromedia--described various methods > the company proposed for evading the particulars of the Eolas patent in > launching applications like Macromedia Flash, Java applets and Adobe's > Acrobat Reader. > > According to these sources, Microsoft said at the meeting that it > believed a simple dialog box inserted between the selection and the > launch of a Java applet or an ActiveX control would maneuver IE out of > the patent's definition of an "automated interactive experience." > > Microsoft also is said to have proposed other ways to launch applications > in a way that could not be held to infringe on the patent, but would > avoid the ungainly dialog box solution. > > One such option would move the data to the Web page itself, rather than > pulling it from an external source. In Microsoft's view, attendees said, > the patent only covers a situation in which the Web page called up data > located elsewhere. The company is said to have told attendees that it > believes so-called inline data falls outside the Eolas patent claims > because it is described in the HTML protocol published in 1991--three > years before the initial Eolas patent filing. > > To answer complaints that such a method would weigh down pages with heavy > data loads, Microsoft proposed shifting that data to a separate frame. > > While declining to comment on the specifics of the meeting or its plans > for IE, Microsoft did warn that the Eolas patent threatened more than > just Internet Explorer. > > "This is not an issue just for IE," said Wallent. "This is a potential > issue for Netscape Navigator, for Opera and for other browser > vendors. This is an industry issue." > > One attendee of the meeting who asked not to be named said that while > Microsoft's workarounds were technically promising, their legal soundness > was uncertain. > > Worse, this attendee said, the implementation of the workarounds would > require a huge amount of work on the part of Web authors. > > "When you think about this, having to go around the patent highlights > the stupidity of the patent system," he said. "Everyone in the field > is very saddened by the whole thing, that we have to go through this > exercise. The W3C has worked very hard to make the Web remain patent > free and this might be the one thing that screws it all up. 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