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| DATE | 2003-09-02 |
| FROM | Steve Milo
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Billy wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:19:31PM -0400, Steve Milo wrote:
> > In the 60's they laughed at the US for attempting to create what we
> > today call the internet.
>
> Did they? I've NEVER heard that.
> I think they would have recognized its strategic importance.
Right, they recognized its strategic importance so much that they never
tried to implement anything like it. Do you know anyone who was
politically aware during that time in that country?
> > Shit, they even lauged at the US for trying
> > to put men on the moon and bringing them back.
>
> Yeah, and I'm still laughing at us for that.
> It was a pointless, dangerous, and vastly expensive propaganda maneuver.
Technological benefits aside, the propoganda it generated was sufficient
to have put this country at the forefront.
Much like Valenti is good at spinning propoganda about how the
entertainment industry will suffer due to 'unbridaled' innovation.
China could have been a 'superpower' centuries ago but it stopped short.
It stopped exploring and it stopped innovating. The Great Wall is one
example of how it chose to isolate itself instead of explore, not that their
method hasnt served them.
> The USSR started the space race with Sputnik, and followed up as the
> first nation to engineer a manned space flight. I'm sure they were
> laughing at us then, and they earned the position from which to do so.
They lost their advantage the second they decided to not match this
country's technological advancements. That downward slide continued
throughtout the 70's into the 80's when we outspent them on weapons
defense. Thats right, that ugly phrase weapons defense, what Reagan
called 'Star Wars'.
The russians thought we were crazy for that one too.
Today russia has plenty of technology that would put American innovation
to shame. But its all gathering dust, worse still the
innnovations that cause destrution are being sold off by the scientists to
feed themselves.
Communist russsia is a shining example when there is an illusion
of centralized control. Instead self interest entities control their own
slice of the system(hold ransom).
When that happens one hand doesnt know what the other hand is doing and
it turns into an 'everyman for himself' scenario.
Communist russia isnt such an ancient example that there isnt a lesson to
be learned from its failure.
> > But its obvious who won in the end.
>
> Did we win because we have an internet or because we put men on the moon?
> Think!
Right, we are the most prosperous nation in this world.
The internet has given third world countries opportunites to create jobs
that would otherwise leave its citizens living under third world
standards. Further, NASA is footing most of the bill for the space
station or atleast was until 9/11 took its toll. Inturn paying for the
space scientists salaries in russia helping keep jobs and paying for
innovation. All of which russia gets to keep.
A pattern I will remind you that this country has followed in every
victory it gained. WW2 the US rebuilt Europe, it helped rebuild Japan,
now after it has won the Cold War it is helping Russia get back on its
feet.
> > I was probably a little harsh on him, he does have a right to voice
> > his opinion on important matters. Actually I was probably completely
> > wrong about him.
>
> He has the right to have his ass handed to him when he says stupid
> things, too. Remember the Boston strangler....
I'm not in a position to perform such a medical procedure.
> > If he was able to make the kind of headway he has in Congress I
> > shouldn't have any doubt he is a very intelligent man.
>
> Yup.
10-4
In short all of this illustrates how the citizens of this country have to
protect what was outlined to them in this countrys Constitution. The men
who wrote that document may not have been able to forsee the technological
aspects. But they very much realized the idealogical importance.
Steve M
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