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| DATE | 2003-08-12 |
| FROM | From: "Steve Milo"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Fwd: [NMLUG] OT Law. (fwd)
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Here's an interesting reply to my post.
http://nmlug.org/pipermail/nmlug/2003-August/007584.html
I've had more favorable and clearer replies than that
http://nmlug.org/pipermail/nmlug/2003-August/date.html
Steve M
On Tuesday, Aug 12, 2003, at 20:20 America/Denver, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> It would be more fun to respond to the rsponses :)
>
> Ruben
>
> On 2003.08.12 20:24 Steve Milo wrote:
>>
>> I recently responded to a topic about copying music on the New Mexico
>> Linux Users Group.
>>
>> Anyone care to comment on what I sent?
>> Let me know if I've lost my marbles, am right on the money or
>> somewhere
>> in between.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve M
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
>>> From: Steve Milo
>>> Reply-To: nmlug-at-nmlug.org
>>> To: nmlug-at-nmlug.org
>>> Subject: [NMLUG] OT Law.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all, I was hoping I could have introduced myself under better
>>> cirucmstances but I have strong beliefs on this topic.
>>>
>>> There some fundamental flaws with how the DMCA is currently
>>> structured.
>>>
>>> I will give a shining example.
>>>
>>> I know a Unix system admin who had resigned from NYU because NYU's
>>> dental
>>> school has decided to employ 'ebooks' instead of regular text books.
>>>
>>> The students are forced to pay a yearly fee *every* year if they
>>> want
>>> to
>>> keep their text books. That is, a yearly fee forever. Also the
>>> students
>>> are restricted from sharing their 'ebooks' with other students.
>>> The DMCA protects this company with the current copyright laws, all
>>> this
>>> company does is transfer regular text books to an electronic form.
>>> In
>>> this case a cdrom. So in essence this is one copyright law
>>> protecting
>>> yet another copyright law, one layer ontop of another.
>>>
>>> The basic premise of a free society is the free exchange of
>>> information,
>>> how do you think our beloved operating system has managed to mature
>>> to
>>> the
>>> level it has today? How do you think our country as a whole has
>>> managed
>>> to advance so quickly in just two hundred years? The citizens werent
>>> extorted into paying for every last bit of gaining knowledge.
>>> Why is it that religion makes such inroads in our culture? Go to
>>> just about any hotel and you will find a bible in the table next to
>>> the
>>> bed. You can read it without paying a licensning fee.
>>>
>>> Yes artists should be paid for their efforts (personally I think they
>>> should put out something worth paying for first), however that
>>> protection
>>> should be like the contsitution intended. In limited scope and time,
>>> they were well aware back then how important information sharing is.
>>>
>>> The milk man argument can be used in the case of our public
>>> libraries.
>>> If we go into a public library we are taking away the ability for
>>> publishers to earn a living....or are we? If I were to find a book I
>>> truly enjoyed I would most likely go out and buy a copy for myself.
>>> I personally dont go to public libraires anymore because sadly it has
>>> become hard to find anything worth reading.
>>>
>>> Music sharing.
>>> I know for a fact that if someone where to share a song
>>> that they enjoyed with me and I liked it I would go out and buy an
>>> original copy. I have done it before. No! I am *not* taking away an
>>> income source from anyone in that food chain. I resent being
>>> blackmailed
>>> into buying something without trying it first. I go to a jean
>>> store, I
>>> try the jeans on before I buy. Lets say a friend of mine has a pair
>>> of
>>> jeans he doesnt need. My friend gives them to me, I dont have to
>>> pay a
>>> relicensing fee for ownership transfer. I dont pay a relicesing fee
>>> for
>>> borrowing that pair of jeans.
>>>
>>> Milk is a poor example because it is something that can be consumed.
>>> Gasonline can be consumed. We pay for the product, if we let someone
>>> borrow our car they dont have to pay a licensing fee for the
>>> gasonline
>>> they use.
>>>
>>> No, I have a problem with the way our current copyright law are
>>> structured. Information is *not* a chicken and the egg dilemna.
>>> Information comes from a person defining an abstraction.
>>>
>>> Our current copyright laws protect only big corporations who have
>>> a vested interest in monopolizing that.
>>> Perhaps the federal goverment should implement a beurau that will
>>> license
>>> every citizen for the priveledge of using the english language.
>>> After all how is any of this information being define? Not through
>>> smoke signals.
>>>
>>> Lasly, let me introduce myself properly.
>>> My name is Steve Milovidov, I'm from Brooklyn NY and I have been in
>>> Belen
>>> for about 8 months. I was employed as a perl/shell script writer
>>> programmer on Wall Street in NYC. I was laid off in December and
>>> decided
>>> to come here to stay with my mom for a while. I feel strongly about
>>> Open Source Software because our industry is being used as a
>>> political
>>> tool. I'm looking for work in the Linux field.
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening to my rant,
>>> Steve M
>>>
>>>
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