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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-07-30
FROM From: "Inker, Evan"
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Judge orders Interior to shut off Internet connections

Mike,

Looks like someone took your earlier advise....

Judge orders Interior to shut off Internet connections
07/28/03

By Wilson P. Dizard III,
GCN Staff

Judge Royce C. Lamberth of the U.S. District Court for the District of
Columbia late this afternoon issued a preliminary injunction requiring the
Interior Department to disconnect its IT systems from the Internet, with
some exceptions.

The preliminary injunction followed a hearing this morning in which the
plaintiffs in the Cobell v. Norton litigation, who represent American Indian
trust beneficiaries, sought the injunction. The goal of the injunction is to
protect American Indian trust accounts from intrusion via the Internet.

Lamberth wrote in today's order that Interior will not have to disconnect
any system "essential for protection against fires or other threats to life
or property." He required the department to identify and certify such
systems within 10 days and provide specific justifications for keeping them
online.

The order to remove Interior systems from the Internet was the second the
judge handed down in two years. He issued a similar order on Dec. 5, 2001,
to address similar security concerns with the trust accounts.

The judge also exempted systems that do not provide access to American
Indian trust data or are secure from unauthorized entry. Lamberth allowed
the department 15 days to certify that the systems are secure or do not
provide access to the trust data.

Lamberth ordered Interior to provide a plan within 30 days of how the court
could approve reconnections of individual systems to the Internet, and
determine whether reconnected systems should stay connected.

The reconnection plan must provide a method for the court to determine that
the reconnected systems are secure, according to the preliminary injunction.


Lamberth ruled that the court itself would decide whether reconnected
systems should stay connected to the Internet. In doing so, he eliminated
the role of special master Alan Balaran, a court official who has been
overseeing the reconnection and security testing of Interior's systems since
December 2001, when Lamberth first ordered Interior to disconnect the
systems to protect trust data. Balaran's role was established in a Dec. 17,
2001, consent order that Lamberth suspended in today's preliminary
injunction.

Interior spokesman Dan Dubray said 20 percent of the department's systems
were already disconnected from the Internet due to previous court orders. He
said he could not comment on the preliminary injunction because he had not
seen it.



Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:54 PM
To: 'Inker, Evan'; 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
Subject: RE: [hangout] Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise



Unplug all the computers and no more computer problems. -----Original
Message-----
From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:52 PM
To: 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
Subject: [hangout] Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise



Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise
http://computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,83406,00.html

By MATHIAS THURMAN
JULY 28, 2003


A recent encounter with the Mumu worm continues to cause my company's
security team great frustration, because new infection reports keep
trickling in. And as if viruses weren't enough, we now have another problem.


As for Mumu, most of the company is aware of the outbreak. We've
communicated specific instructions via e-mail and an intranet Web page on
how to detect and remove the virus. And at this point, the desktop support
department has taken over responsibility for dealing with this issue.

But while cleaning up Mumu in remote offices, we discovered something else:
We have a growing number of unofficial Linux installations on desktops and
servers throughout the company, and they aren't configured for optimum
security.

The weaknesses from the rogue installs don't necessarily stem from the Linux
operating system itself. Rather, they come from the installation of
third-party applications and utilities, which can leave a desktop or server
vulnerable to attack if set up incorrectly.

Growing in Popularity

Until now, we haven't had a policy on using Linux because there wasn't a
need. One year ago, only a small subset of users ran Linux. The Linux
desktops mostly belonged to developers or quality assurance and technical
support staffers responsible for supporting our company's software on Linux.
Now there are many more. Employees are installing Linux on their desktops,
either as the primary operating system or as a second one alongside Windows
2000, our corporate standard.

Staff members are doing this using VMware from Palo Alto, Calif.-based
VMware Inc. and other programs that allow multiple operating systems to run
on the same machine.
Also, my company is using Red Hat Linux for more of its application servers.
For example, we recently purchased an application for conducting surveys
that runs only on Linux.
With the increased emphasis on Linux, some departments within the company,
including mine, are considering using more open-source tools to help with
day-to-day operations. I'm looking at a Linux-based knowledge base engine
for the IT security department.

Knowledge base applications are good to have, especially in a department
that has many applications to support. Certain configuration problems and
associated remedies can be stored within the knowledge base system for
future reference.

I'm also looking at security incident reporting programs to keep track of
problems that occur frequently. One thing that frustrates me is having to
read through incident reports - we generate more than 300 of them per year
-- looking for anomalies.

Currently, we write incident reports in Microsoft Word using a template and
save them on a shared drive accessible only to the security team. When an
incident occurs that might be similar to something that happened in the
past, the only way to find such incidents is to do word searches or read
through past reports.

An incident reporting and tracking system would ease that data collection
and correlation burden. I found several open-source programs that could
help, but not everyone in the company wants us to use them. One of the
problems management has with open-source is the lack of traditional support
-- the ability to call in to the software vendor's help desk. My team is
technically savvy, so we don't mind accessing forums, knowledge base sites
and other online resources to get answers.

Another objection is that troubleshooting usually requires some technical
knowledge of the operating system and programming. But for the most part, if
the application is department-specific and not mission-critical, my team and
I don't have a problem getting approval to use open-source tools.

In addition to open-source, we've deployed commercial enterprise
applications on Linux. It's a lot cheaper to run an application on Linux and
a standard PC than to purchase Solaris and a Sun server. The problem is that
each Linux installation is different, and that's a security issue. There are
so many Linux distributions that it would be difficult to create and manage
standard configurations for each.

Therefore, we're standardizing on Red Hat Linux. It offers strong vendor
support, and many enterprise applications are written specifically for it.
We will also standardize on certain applications, such as Web server,
monitoring and security software.


Vulnerable Programs

Red Hat Linux itself seems to be fairly secure, but the same can't be said
for programs that run on top of it. For example, there always seem to be
vulnerabilities associated with programs such as file transfer protocol,
sendmail and Apache. And other open-source software is vulnerable,
especially when the developer hasn't written the program with security in
mind.

One of the most common mistakes I have seen is when the developer doesn't
write the program to sanitize it or restrict dangerous data from being
passed to it. This is usually the cause of vulnerabilities such as SQL
Injection, authentication bypass, buffer overflow and other Web application
exploits.

We can't eliminate Linux, so the solution is to create standard baselines
for our Linux systems, just as we do for Solaris and Windows. We'll start by
doing this for our Linux-based Web, application and database servers. As
with our Solaris and Windows systems, we will use imaging software and
create a "jump-start" system configuration that will serve as the baseline
configuration for all machines. Hopefully, this will keep security problems
to a minimum.

Source: Computerworld


Regards,

Evan M. Inker


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  85. 2003-07-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO Escalates Linux Battle
  86. 2003-07-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  87. 2003-07-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Technology
  88. 2003-07-21 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  89. 2003-07-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IT court cases (video)
  90. 2003-07-20 Bruce Ingalls <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  91. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  92. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  93. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  94. 2003-07-20 From: "Bruce Ingalls" <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> RE: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  95. 2003-07-20 Robert Marino <prmarino-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  96. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night Sunday Night
  97. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Presentation SAchedule for August
  98. 2003-07-20 From: "Bruce Ingalls" <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Subject: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  99. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  100. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  101. 2003-07-20 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  102. 2003-07-20 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  103. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Suggestions for a Linux admin book...
  104. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  105. 2003-07-18 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] 2 questions
  106. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  107. 2003-07-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] CMYK plugin for The GIMP
  108. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Topic for technite.
  109. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: camara
  110. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thanks Everyone for help tonight
  111. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  112. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: #350: D Pipes v. M Khan on "Islam and Democracy" [dplist-at-danielpipes.org]
  113. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  114. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  115. 2003-07-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  116. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  117. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Installment of Handbook
  118. 2003-07-17 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] 2 questions
  119. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] We need a 501c3
  120. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  121. 2003-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  122. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  123. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Education committee
  124. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] hp's d220 w/ Linux
  125. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  126. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  127. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  128. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  129. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  130. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: NYLXS inventoryFW: FW: Need Updated Status on NYLXS ....
  131. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  132. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  133. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  134. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  135. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  136. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  137. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  138. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  139. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  140. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  141. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  142. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  143. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  144. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  145. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACSH/NY Fair Use Meeting
  146. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  147. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  148. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  149. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  150. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  151. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  152. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting moved :)
  153. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  154. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] P. Robert
  155. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  156. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  157. 2003-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  158. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  159. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  160. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  161. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo
  162. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  163. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  164. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  165. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mind Games
  166. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  167. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  168. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  169. 2003-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  170. 2003-07-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  171. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  172. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  173. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  174. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  175. 2003-07-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  176. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] yay!
  177. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  178. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  179. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  180. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Rob from the Education Committee
  181. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention New Board Members
  182. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  183. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  184. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  185. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  186. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Math.h
  187. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Math.h
  188. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Linux on the desktop
  189. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  190. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  191. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] busride
  192. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  193. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bus Ride
  194. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  195. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  196. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  197. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Security Announcement: nfs-utils (SuSE-SA:2003:031)
  198. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  199. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  200. 2003-07-14 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Intro video
  201. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: education committe
  202. 2003-07-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Bus Ride
  203. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Weasle
  204. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  205. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  206. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  207. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  208. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  209. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  210. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  211. 2003-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  212. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  213. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Sunday technite
  214. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speakign of Committees
  215. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  216. 2003-07-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  217. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: fallback
  218. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  219. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fallback
  220. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  221. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  222. 2003-07-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Previous Minutes for Reference
  223. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Old Minutes which need to be reviewed on Bans etc
  224. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Minutes - July Meeting
  225. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  226. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] June Board Meeting Report
  227. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  228. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  229. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  230. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  231. 2003-07-10 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  232. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  233. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  234. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  235. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Two different meetings today...
  236. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  237. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  238. 2003-07-10 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  239. 2003-07-10 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] MSLinux release
  240. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  241. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice
  242. 2003-07-09 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  243. 2003-07-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  244. 2003-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  245. 2003-07-09 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 9.1 --> 100% Free Software distro
  246. 2003-07-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] inservice idea
  247. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  248. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] running stuff
  249. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] inservice idea
  250. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  251. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  252. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  253. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  254. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  255. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  256. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  257. 2003-07-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies this Wednesday July 9th, Sam Hiser on OpenOffice.org
  258. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Membership Handbook - 1st Drafts
  259. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  260. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  261. 2003-07-07 Michael L Richardson <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Re: [nylxs-announce] Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  262. 2003-07-07 Bill Putney <bputney-at-the-bomb.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  263. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PXE and tftp
  264. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSe Remote install
  265. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  266. 2003-07-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  267. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  268. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  269. 2003-07-07 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-monmouth.com> Subject: [hangout] Emergency Meeting
  270. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  271. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  272. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux creator an open source Torvalds on SCO suit, Microsoft and his
  273. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite - Continues on ....
  274. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  275. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  276. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Server Migration
  277. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  278. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  279. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last
  280. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] today's meeting proceeds as usual?
  281. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GRR's Laws of IT/Computers.
  282. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  283. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  284. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  285. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  286. 2003-07-05 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  287. 2003-07-05 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Software licenses don't work
  288. 2003-07-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Toshiba petition
  289. 2003-07-04 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Independance Day
  290. 2003-07-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Tech Nite - Sunday Evening
  291. 2003-07-04 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 4th of July
  292. 2003-07-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  293. 2003-07-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy 4th of July to All!
  294. 2003-07-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  295. 2003-07-03 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  296. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  297. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  298. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  299. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  300. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  301. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  302. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  303. 2003-07-02 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  304. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse
  305. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  306. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hackathon July 06, 2003 "Let the Games Begin..."
  307. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] linux journal
  308. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  309. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  310. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source trade clash
  311. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  312. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  313. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  314. 2003-07-02 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  315. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  316. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] sys admin journal
  317. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse
  318. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?] (fwd)
  319. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  320. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  321. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  322. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  323. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  324. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  325. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  326. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  327. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  328. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Domain transfers
  329. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  330. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  331. 2003-07-01 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  332. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re
  333. 2003-07-01 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from
  334. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  335. 2003-07-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  336. 2003-07-31 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  337. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  338. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  339. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  340. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Idea's
  341. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Judge orders Interior to shut off Internet connections
  342. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise
  343. 2003-07-30 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  344. 2003-07-29 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  345. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Resignation - NYLXS Board & 1st Vice President
  346. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Are your receiving this?
  347. 2003-07-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  348. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Small Business Dilemma: Open Source or Proprietary Software?
  349. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Is there anyone out there?
  350. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  351. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  352. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Evening meeting Wed July 23, 2203 7:00 PM
  353. 2003-07-22 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  354. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Evening FSCC Meeting
  355. 2003-07-21 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  356. 2003-07-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Escalates Linux Battle
  357. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  358. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  359. 2003-07-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  360. 2003-07-30 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  361. 2003-07-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  362. 2003-07-29 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  363. 2003-07-24 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] DoJ Intellectual Property Lawyers answer questions from Slashdot.org
  364. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  365. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  366. 2003-07-02 Brian Redfern <bredfern-at-calarts.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  367. 2003-07-03 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium

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