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| DATE | 2003-07-08 |
| FROM | Brent Fox
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
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On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 16:07, Brent Fox wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 15:26, Adam Kosmin wrote:
> > I just went to the site and was unable to configure a d220 system with
> > Mandrake. If you go through the motions, you'll see that the only
> > availabe software options include Windows XP Home SP1 and Windows XP
> > Professional SP1.
>
> I can't say I'm surprised. I tried it myself and couldn't find one
> either.
>
> I did run across
> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-337529.html which has the friendly statement "Compaq PCs use genuine Microsoft Windows" at the bottom along with a link to www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell. I've noticed that all the big OEMs have this message these days. Coincidence? Take a look at:
>
> http://catalog.us.dell.com/CS1/cs1page2.aspx?br=1&c=us&CS=19&fm=10445&kc=6V414&l=en&s=dhs
> http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&categoryId=2286442&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73
>
After looking further, I found:
http://www.smb.compaq.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?ProductLineId=429&FamilyId=1602&c=HPSMBProd_d2200microtowerpc&n=D_I_DR_X_T_x_Right_Graphic&t=ad&r=HP_SMBProd_O&r=HP_ProdShowcase_O&n=D_I_DR_X_T_x_GenericNVP&c=HPProdShowcase_hpcompaqd2337529&t=ad
which appears to let you order one, but it's a convoluted path to get
there.
I went back and looked at the original press
release:http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2003/030702a.html
Then I clicked on the link near the bottom:
http://www.hp.com/products/desktops
That took me to a list of machines. The Compaq d220 is at the top. If
you click the "configure and buy" button, you'll see the choice to pick
either the Linux version or the Windows version. However, if you click
the "hp Compaq d220 microtower" link, it takes you to
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-337529.html, which has the "Compaq PCs use genuine Microsoft Windows" message at the bottom. Clicking on the "how to buy" link on that page takes you to http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/jsp/us/en/howtobuy.jsp?seghomename=small%20%26%20medium%20business&seghomeurl=http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/eng/solutions/smb.html&segcode=sm which says that this product is not available online, which is in contradiction to the www.smb.compaq.com link that I posted earlier. What the heck?!?
I'm left with the impression that HP's website is almost impossible to
navigate.
Cheers,
Brent
> > I'm getting on the phone with HP now and will be
> > trying to find some answers.
>
> I wish you the best of luck. Perhaps you'll have better luck than I did
> with Dell a few years ago. They wouldn't sell me a desktop with Linux
> at any price.
>
> If the OEMs don't want to sell Linux on desktop machines, that's fine.
> What bothers me is when they make big public claims to offer the
> machines and then never do. The press releases hit Slashdot and
> everybody gets all excited but then nobody seems to care when the OEMs
> don't follow through. I don't know why some tech reporters haven't
> written articles about the broken promises of OEMs to offer desktop
> Linux preloads.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Brent
>
> > Best,
> > Adam Kosmin
> >
> >
> >
> > Ray C. (ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com) wrote:
> > "
> > " --
> > " At times the discrepency between institutions and technology becomes an
> > " incompatibility, and then one or the other must give way.
> > " -Allen Wheelis
> >
> > Content-Description: Walt Pennington : [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
> > " Date: 02 Jul 2003 13:29:52 -0700
> > " To: LULA
> > " From: Walt Pennington
> > " Subject: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
> > " X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.0
> > "
> > " http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/en/WF07a/12454-64287-89301-321860-f9-337529.html
> > "
> > " HP Press Release
> > " http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2003/030702a.html
> > "
> > "
> > " "HP Compaq desktops are available with the latest operating systems from
> > " the industry leader, Microsoft, as well as a robust Linux offering from
> > " Mandrake. The HP Compaq d220 offers a choice of Microsoft Windows XP
> > " Professional, Microsoft Windows XP Home or Mandrake's Linux v9.1,
> > " providing customers with the versatility needed for today's mixed-use
> > " environments."
> > "
> > " _______________________________________________
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> > " Lula-at-lula.org
> > " http://www.lula.org/mailman/listinfo/lula
> >
>
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