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| DATE | 2003-07-17 |
| FROM | From: "Inker, Evan"
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| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
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Point of Order:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Mailing list should not be
moderated at all. Say what you will and when it gets too ridiculous, one of
the group will definitely tell you to shut up and kill the thread". If
everyone uses a little basic common sense and courtesy, all will be well!
Adam, you are confused. Its not easy to be banned. To the best of my
knowledge, with the exception of Jay and Brett, no one has ever been banned
from NYLXS. And all organizations have by-laws and charters which govern
them otherwise you have a "free-for-all" condition existing. As far as
censorship, if this organization employed censorship, half the posts on the
mailing would not exist and a fair amount of its members would no longer be
with the organization. If anything NYLXS is incredibly liberal in terms of
what you can get away with and not get banned.
To reiterate, no email posts should be moderated but a little common sense
(after last weeks posts, I know common courtesy is out) would be nice. You
do not discuss Board matters on Hangout or cc: Hangout when discussing
confidential matters (Yes, we actually do have one or two confidential
threads going in the past, one of which was related to potential clients of
the FSCC). Lastly you can literally openly disagree vigorously with anyone
you like and/or to your hearts content. As to your comment below
"It seems to me that this really just means "Anything Ruben posts will not
be censored""
does not stand up to empirical evidence. It seems your posts and Marco's
posts were not rejected even though they were strongly worded (again,
everyone has a right to their opinion. Opinions are like assholes, "Everyone
has one{" :) not to mention I've sent some strong emails in my time as well.
Mike, Please refresh my memory (I know the answer but want to hear it from
you), what is the status of NYLXS members dealing with NYFU? As I remember,
NYLXS Board Members cannot occupy a seat on NYFU and vice versa.
Regards,
Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
It seems to me that this really just means "Anything Ruben posts will not be
censored". Please understand that I have to take this view when I consider
how easily one can be banned from the list as well as your claim that I am
in breach of some NYLXS law which states that I am not allowed to interact
with members of NYFU. Both of which, are forms of censorship. Both of which,
I am intent on banning myself.
Ban the ban!
Adam
Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com) wrote:
" Acceptable policy for this list is virtual no sensorship.
"
" That was and is the purpose of the list
"
"
"
" On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 01:03:37AM -0400, Adam Kosmin wrote: " > As long
as the NYLXS handbook is being created, I'd like to suggest that " > we give
some serious thought to adding a section that outlines an " > acceptable
usage policy for this list. Latley, I find myself bored to " > death with
the flames, insults, and baggering that takes place here. I'm " > tired of
it and personally believe that most of the related threads " > exist because
of larger problems within the organization. However, " > larger problems
will of course, take longer to solve. In the meantime, I " > think
establishing a code of conduct should be low hanging fruit. " >
" > Adam Kosmin
" > --
" > # chown -R linux.GNU world
"
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