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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-07-22
FROM Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] School Technology

I apologies if this seems harsh. It's not ment to be so.

Ruben


On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:52:37AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> BTW
>
> All 7 of the reasons are related directly to the choice of PHP as the
> technology to express the techincal foundation of the Beakman program.
>
> ...not that that was my point. My point was that they are trying to
> emulate a program which is a proven failure in most regards.
>
> Therefor, helping them repeat the same mistakes, which are were broad,
> should be a sellable position.
>
> Ruben
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:38:31AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2003.07.21 22:57 Sunny Dubey wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday 21 July 2003 08:40 pm, Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote:
> > >
> > > > Perl allows, as most people who took my classes know, a broad background
> > > > in general programming skills, and computer science that is not possible
> > > > with many other programming platforms. One of those platforms is PHP.
> > >
> > > I think it is safe for me to say that PHP/MySQL is the most popular
> > > language/database combination on the internet.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That is STRONGLY doubtful, as JSP is probibly more deployed on the internet.
> > I strongly doubt PHP/MySQL is even larger than mod_perl deployments and would
> > challenge you to show the data and the studies to back up this statement.
> >
> > Not that this matters.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > We have already developed a very solid ciriculum with Perl to teach
> > > > programming basics.
> > >
> > > I think there is a fundamental flaw with NYLXS.
> >
> >
> > What - JUST ONE FLAW!!!
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > We are now a zillion times more perfect than all other groups anywhere!
> >
> > > The fact that NYLXS members
> > > will advocate or use some technology, only because they are experienced of it
> > > even if they are aware of other perfectly sound solutions.
> >
> >
> > Now - I'm not sure what your talkign about but I oversaw a project management team which
> > did NOTHING but PHP, and produced over 90 K lines of PHP code under my oversight, DESPITE my
> > pleading that the project was too complex for PHP, and in the end, after I left, all the PHP guru's
> > indeed ran against the wall with project control and debugging.
> >
> > In a word, it became impossible to debug. In any event, I hope your not referring to me in terms
> > of a lack of experience in PHP, because I can, and have taught PHP, Perl, C and Shell scripting
> > when needed to professional.
> >
> >
> > The inadequacies of PHP to reach our goals is not an issue of dogma, and I will not be drawn into
> > a PHP versus Perl Flame war, you can do that on your own time.
> >
> > They are completely different technologies. They are so different, that the whole argument is a useless
> > discussion.
> >
> > > I've noticed this
> > > particularly with how NYLXS often uses SuSE, when there are other 100% free
> > > distributions.
> >
> > Now who is Dogmatics. Your 100% free version of GNU/Linux in Debian is functionally far less pollished
> > than SuSe. Hell - they distributed GNOME without a logoff button.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If we are to advance free software, we must advocate whatever we have.
> >
> > STOP
> >
> > Have you READ the educational goals of NYLXS yet? First read it, and then we can pick up on this
> > conversation again with the same base reference.
> >
> > > Simply bashing a particular technology (PHP) is not the way to go. Especially
> > > when someone else who we are to service has requested it.
> >
> > Show me where I bashed it? The hysteria around PHP is nearly laughable. I for one, couldn't care less about
> > PHP one way or the other. But unless you can claim 4 years of educational experience, plus the professional
> > oversite of a large enterprise us PHP and Perl, I need more than hysteria to back up claims. BTW, NYLXS is not
> > in the Quartermaster of all Free Software requests in the Metro NY Region. We do things for our own reasons and
> > to achive the goals we've set out to accomplish. If you can explain to me how we can achive the specific goals
> > that we've laid out for Education, please refer to the specific goals and corlate them to the PHP features which
> > accomplish those goals. That would be a useful constuction in the discussion, and it's the kind of professionalism
> > which will be needed if your going to learn how to lead others in a positive direction in any serious field.
> >
> >
> > > Of the 7 reasons, 6 had nothing to do with PHP at all. The first six could be
> > > applied to just about any course teaching any material. (non computer
> > > courses as well.)
> >
> > That's not true. The basic lack of built in programming tools for the enforcement and documentation
> > of standardized programing interfaces made the Beekman project a giant eagles nest of clugged coding which
> > was impossible to impliment within other institutions outside of providing web services to other institutions.
> >
> > Furthermore, the use of PHP as the introudction langugue for children will not contribute to an integrated kind of
> > cross-pollonation which is needed to break the stranglehold of propreitary systems in which our current educational
> > system is gripped by.
> >
> > >
> > > Additionally I think PHP is a great language because it isn't complex as C/C++
> > > but at the same time it allows for an understand of basic programming
> > > structure which is similar to C/C++.
> >
> > No it doesn't. It is NOTHING like C or C++. There is no means, for example, to make a pointer, or
> > a reference to a union or a stuct to be objectified, or to even be passed between name spaces or scopes.
> >
> > And in fact, in many regards, PHP is more complex than C, especially ANSI C. It has an endless stream of
> > built in functions with long names, limited database connectivitiy, and non-standardized function interfaces.
> >
> > In fact, PHP makes the C string library look nearly rational. This is not how you want to teach people
> > to program.
> >
> > In fact, C and C++ are entirely differnet from each other. And who said that teaching C and C++ is an
> > end goal in of itself. In fact, the principles of C and C++ are very difficult to teach with PHP because
> > of it's lack of real references, it's lack of a true runtime enviornment, it's non-existant namespace
> > implication, and so on.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Such comments really do tarnish the NYLXS name, and show a general sense of
> > > ignorance on the topic at hand.
> >
> > Perl IS faster to code up than PHP.
> >
> > As for your comments on Perl, I'm not in the least bit interested in such a useless flamewar.
> >
> > Your entitled to your opinion. But you have not given a single shread of evidence to substantiate any of the points.
> > Please substantiate your opinion with actually data, genuine example, or provable hypothesis.
> >
> >
> > In fact, PHP has some very useful features, but you haven't mentioned ANY of them.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
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  82. 2003-07-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  83. 2003-07-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  84. 2003-07-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] info-at-j2jnetwork.com: J2J Network - Job Postings week of 7/21/03
  85. 2003-07-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO Escalates Linux Battle
  86. 2003-07-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  87. 2003-07-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Technology
  88. 2003-07-21 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  89. 2003-07-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] IT court cases (video)
  90. 2003-07-20 Bruce Ingalls <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  91. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  92. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  93. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  94. 2003-07-20 From: "Bruce Ingalls" <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> RE: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  95. 2003-07-20 Robert Marino <prmarino-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  96. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night Sunday Night
  97. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Presentation SAchedule for August
  98. 2003-07-20 From: "Bruce Ingalls" <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Subject: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  99. 2003-07-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IT Court Cases
  100. 2003-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  101. 2003-07-20 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  102. 2003-07-20 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  103. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Suggestions for a Linux admin book...
  104. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  105. 2003-07-18 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] 2 questions
  106. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: camara
  107. 2003-07-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] CMYK plugin for The GIMP
  108. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Topic for technite.
  109. 2003-07-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: camara
  110. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thanks Everyone for help tonight
  111. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  112. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: #350: D Pipes v. M Khan on "Islam and Democracy" [dplist-at-danielpipes.org]
  113. 2003-07-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  114. 2003-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  115. 2003-07-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  116. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  117. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Installment of Handbook
  118. 2003-07-17 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] 2 questions
  119. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] We need a 501c3
  120. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  121. 2003-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  122. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  123. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Education committee
  124. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] hp's d220 w/ Linux
  125. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  126. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  127. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  128. 2003-07-17 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  129. 2003-07-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  130. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: NYLXS inventoryFW: FW: Need Updated Status on NYLXS ....
  131. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  132. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  133. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  134. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  135. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  136. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  137. 2003-07-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: FW: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  138. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  139. 2003-07-17 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  140. 2003-07-17 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl pattern matching
  141. 2003-07-17 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Perl, Pattern Matching and Delete
  142. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  143. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Rep
  144. 2003-07-17 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  145. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACSH/NY Fair Use Meeting
  146. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show and Membership Meeting Tonight
  147. 2003-07-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Education Meeting Tonight?
  148. 2003-07-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mv hangout flamewars
  149. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  150. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  151. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  152. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting moved :)
  153. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  154. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] P. Robert
  155. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  156. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  157. 2003-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  158. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  159. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo ok
  160. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  161. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbo
  162. 2003-07-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Mind Games
  163. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] 7 points to consider about the Update on Handbook
  164. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mind Games
  165. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mind Games
  166. 2003-07-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  167. 2003-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  168. 2003-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  169. 2003-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  170. 2003-07-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  171. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  172. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  173. 2003-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  174. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch /
  175. 2003-07-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  176. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] yay!
  177. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Update on Handbook
  178. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  179. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  180. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Rob from the Education Committee
  181. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention New Board Members
  182. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  183. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  184. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  185. 2003-07-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] In 1 hour! :: NY Linux Users Group Stammtisch / Consultants Dinner
  186. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Math.h
  187. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Math.h
  188. 2003-07-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Linux on the desktop
  189. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking of computers...
  190. 2003-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  191. 2003-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] busride
  192. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  193. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bus Ride
  194. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Intro video
  195. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  196. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  197. 2003-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE Security Announcement: nfs-utils (SuSE-SA:2003:031)
  198. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP: Open Source Here to Stay
  199. 2003-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wal-Mart Adds SuSE-Based PCs As Linux Offerings Grow
  200. 2003-07-14 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Intro video
  201. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: education committe
  202. 2003-07-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Bus Ride
  203. 2003-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Weasle
  204. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PHP and MYSQL
  205. 2003-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  206. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  207. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  208. 2003-07-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  209. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  210. 2003-07-12 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  211. 2003-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weasles
  212. 2003-07-12 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video editing software for Linux
  213. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Sunday technite
  214. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Speakign of Committees
  215. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  216. 2003-07-11 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: for the record
  217. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: fallback
  218. 2003-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  219. 2003-07-11 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fallback
  220. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for the record
  221. 2003-07-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  222. 2003-07-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Previous Minutes for Reference
  223. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Old Minutes which need to be reviewed on Bans etc
  224. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Minutes - July Meeting
  225. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  226. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] June Board Meeting Report
  227. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  228. 2003-07-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  229. 2003-07-10 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  230. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  231. 2003-07-10 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  232. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  233. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  234. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice || 2003-07-10 || mesgno 11772
  235. 2003-07-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Two different meetings today...
  236. 2003-07-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Today
  237. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] is Bill Putney out there?
  238. 2003-07-10 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] MSLinux release
  239. 2003-07-10 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] MSLinux release
  240. 2003-07-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  241. 2003-07-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYACC Meeting Notice
  242. 2003-07-09 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] website updates(www.nylxs.com)
  243. 2003-07-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  244. 2003-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD Gets Harder to Crack - OpenBSD 3.3
  245. 2003-07-09 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 9.1 --> 100% Free Software distro
  246. 2003-07-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] inservice idea
  247. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  248. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] running stuff
  249. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] inservice idea
  250. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  251. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  252. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  253. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  254. 2003-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  255. 2003-07-08 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz
  256. 2003-07-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  257. 2003-07-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Gnubies this Wednesday July 9th, Sam Hiser on OpenOffice.org
  258. 2003-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Membership Handbook - 1st Drafts
  259. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  260. 2003-07-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  261. 2003-07-07 Michael L Richardson <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Re: [nylxs-announce] Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  262. 2003-07-07 Bill Putney <bputney-at-the-bomb.com> Re: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  263. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PXE and tftp
  264. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SUSe Remote install
  265. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  266. 2003-07-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  267. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  268. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  269. 2003-07-07 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-monmouth.com> Subject: [hangout] Emergency Meeting
  270. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> FW: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  271. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  272. 2003-07-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux creator an open source Torvalds on SCO suit, Microsoft and his
  273. 2003-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite - Continues on ....
  274. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  275. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  276. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Server Migration
  277. 2003-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  278. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  279. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last
  280. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] today's meeting proceeds as usual?
  281. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] GRR's Laws of IT/Computers.
  282. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 8.2
  283. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  284. 2003-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  285. 2003-07-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] General Emergency Meeting
  286. 2003-07-05 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  287. 2003-07-05 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Software licenses don't work
  288. 2003-07-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Toshiba petition
  289. 2003-07-04 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Independance Day
  290. 2003-07-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Tech Nite - Sunday Evening
  291. 2003-07-04 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 4th of July
  292. 2003-07-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  293. 2003-07-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy 4th of July to All!
  294. 2003-07-03 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  295. 2003-07-03 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  296. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  297. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  298. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  299. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  300. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  301. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  302. 2003-07-02 akbar pasha <akbar-at-pionerd.org> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  303. 2003-07-02 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 8.2 Pro
  304. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Suse
  305. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  306. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hackathon July 06, 2003 "Let the Games Begin..."
  307. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] linux journal
  308. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  309. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] sys admin journal
  310. 2003-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source trade clash
  311. 2003-07-02 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  312. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  313. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  314. 2003-07-02 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  315. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  316. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] sys admin journal
  317. 2003-07-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse
  318. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?] (fwd)
  319. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  320. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting Tomorow Night?
  321. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  322. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  323. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] letter to Mandrake - edit 1
  324. 2003-07-02 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  325. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  326. 2003-07-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  327. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] the group
  328. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Domain transfers
  329. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re dHat.
  330. 2003-07-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  331. 2003-07-01 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  332. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from Re
  333. 2003-07-01 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from
  334. 2003-07-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  335. 2003-07-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
  336. 2003-07-31 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  337. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  338. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  339. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  340. 2003-07-30 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Tech Night Idea's
  341. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Judge orders Interior to shut off Internet connections
  342. 2003-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Rogue Linux Installs on the Rise
  343. 2003-07-30 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux Laptops
  344. 2003-07-29 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Revolution OS Movie
  345. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Resignation - NYLXS Board & 1st Vice President
  346. 2003-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Are your receiving this?
  347. 2003-07-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  348. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Small Business Dilemma: Open Source or Proprietary Software?
  349. 2003-07-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Is there anyone out there?
  350. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  351. 2003-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] 2 questions
  352. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Evening meeting Wed July 23, 2203 7:00 PM
  353. 2003-07-22 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  354. 2003-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Evening FSCC Meeting
  355. 2003-07-21 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] School Technology
  356. 2003-07-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Escalates Linux Battle
  357. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] linuxiso.org gets a cease and desist letter from RedHat.
  358. 2003-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft EULA is "hear say" according to last night's Judge
  359. 2003-07-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  360. 2003-07-30 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  361. 2003-07-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  362. 2003-07-29 Bob Butcher <rwbutcher-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Owner of Stolen 'Sex.com' Can Sue VeriSign-Court
  363. 2003-07-24 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Subject: [hangout] DoJ Intellectual Property Lawyers answer questions from Slashdot.org
  364. 2003-07-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  365. 2003-07-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  366. 2003-07-02 Brian Redfern <bredfern-at-calarts.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium
  367. 2003-07-03 Brent Fox <bfox-at-redhat.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Lula] HP offers Mandrake Linux 9.1 - Preinstalled 2.4Ghz Pentium

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