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| DATE | 2003-05-18 |
| FROM | Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
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More than one laptop, I would say low end to match what is currently
in the schools [if you have the lastest and greatest it will not be qas
impessive as seeing GNU/Linux bring a old(outdated) machine to life].
And a basic demo of programs that all members are checked out on.
On Sun, 18 May 2003, Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote:
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> > I think it would be a wise investment for the group to buy a laptop for
> > demonstrations.
> > Selso has a vendor for a used IBM Thinkpad PII 450 for $380
> > Other offers suggestions are welcome.
>
> I recommend to get a better one. My Viao, before it was manhandled, wa a formable
> sales tool. You may not need to spend $2000, but you should have a very
> sexy machine, as much as possible. This is not a practicle purchase, but a
> marketing tool.
>
> > That said I sitting through the rest of the day. There was not one demo
> > for which we do not have a _better_ free software alternative.
> >
>
> If you analyze the conditions now for teachers, you will draw the conclusion
> that this is not important...
>
> > I was most suprised by the number of teachers who had found slash server
> > like websites to host their classes.
>
> And this is why...
>
> Teachers have no idea what is effective or how to use technology in education.
>
> The question we need to ask is who is going to provide this education for them..
>
> Microsoft or NYLXS.
>
> Once teachers understand what to do with them, this will dramatically change.
> That is way th most important message to be drilling this audience is,
> "technology in education is failing to make the grade" and here is why.
>
>
> > The reliance on external companies, or web-service portals shocked me
> > because the teachers are imputting their entire lesson plans through
> > a web form and relying on the continued well being of a distant company
> > offering a "free as in beer" service over the net, which seems to me to
> > be an incredibly precarious way of running classes.
>
> Why is it precarious? It's stupid to pay someone to do something every
> teach should be able to do themselves...but I hardly can see it as precarious.
>
> It's just an example of how a lack of training about technology has hindered
> the use of technology in the classroom to an effective end point. These
> companies are snakeoil salesmen.
>
> > I think, now armed with more examples, having a better idea what types
> > of problems the teachers are having, we need to find who is higher up,
> > and get a rapid demonstration going.
>
> It is more than that, and this would eventually fail under the marketing
> weight of Apple and Microsoft. We need to get them to think in a revolutionary
> and clinical way about end points of student education. The goal is to
> educate children. Even the best slashdot server can not reach this goal.
> We need to make vendors PROVE that their products actual educate students.
> And we must do the same.
>
> Ruben
>
>
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