MESSAGE
| DATE | 2003-05-05 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Puppet President and Major Structural Problems
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Your guys are lucky I'm tolerant...
On 2003.05.05 13:41 Joseph A. Maffia wrote:
> You also read my partners emails.
>
> At 01:34 PM 05/05/2003 -0400, Joseph A. Maffia wrote:
> >Ruben,
> >That is not true - you have read my emails - take things off my desk and
> >never consulted me. How did you get the .org password? How did you get the
> >.net password? That is not right - I have asked you to stop and yet it
> >continues. Please stop reading my email.
> >
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >At 12:41 PM 05/05/2003 -0400, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> >
> >>Your wrong Marco...
> >>
> >>Nothing is stolen, you have full access to the server, and you full powers
> >>to do wha you want. The staff has full control of the sites, and you
> >>even have
> >>a key to the front door.
> >>
> >>As for reading Joe Maffia's mail, forget that accuation. It's
> >>bullshit. The last time
> >>he leveled that at me he had to appologize when it was shown to be wrong.
> >>
> >>If you want to make the efforts to turn over the server, YOU DO IT.
> >>
> >>I'm not doing it.
> >>
> >>Your as much of a puppet as you want to be.... or not.
> >>
> >>Ruben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 2003.05.05 12:37 Marco Scoffier wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ruben, I am afraid that Dave makes some very valid points.
> >> > Every reasonable person who gets some knowledge about how NYLXS works
> >> > would come to the same conclusion. Just like every resonable person who
> >> > pokes around the webserver gasps, "what a mess".
> >> >
> >> > NYLXS is very far from a democracy. You have absolute control and
> >> > refuse to give up the reigns.
> >> >
> >> > You personally have the passwords to every domain which had been in
> >> > question. You even managed to steal the password to nylxs.org before I
> >> > had a chance to change it, by reading Joe Maffia's email which I find
> >> > inconceivable and just smells really wrong.
> >> >
> >> > You are also the only person to have root access to the server, meaning
> >> > that no matter what anyone does you are the ultimate censor.
> >> >
> >> > If people felt that they had more control over the parts of the
> >> > organisation of which they have been put in charge, they would work much
> >> > much more.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't done very much since I was elected president, because I am a
> >> > puppet, absolutely everything I would think of doing is ultimatly
> >> > censored by you. And I'm sorry, but as much as I respect you, this is a
> >> > major concern.
> >> >
> >> > If you want a vibrant democratic group, NYLXS needs some major
> >> > structural overhaul, and some sensible proceedings such as those put
> >> > forth by Dave and Michael about PR.
> >> >
> >> > I would further suggest:
> >> >
> >> > 1) a week of website overhaul to implement the templating system I have
> >> > 90% finished and to fix some weirdnesses such as the date entry on the
> >> > scheduling page, which makes the entries virtually unuseable by anyone
> >> > but you. The templating system should allow each commitee head to
> >> > control a branch of the site.
> >> >
> >> > 2) Switching the main site to nylxs.org which is closer to the mission,
> >> > figuring out how to minimize the hiccup in the google rankings this
> >> > switch will create.
> >> >
> >> > 3) Dedicating a mail server to nylxs.org. So that outgoing mails are not
> >> > rewritten to www2.mrbrklyn.com. And looking into the possibility of
> >> > webmail access for the members, or a secure imap server, I have been
> >> > looking at dovecot recently which I have heard many good things about.
> >> > Having mail go out as member-at-nylxs.org is an instant advertisement and
> >> > helps to solidify the organisation.
> >> >
> >> > If you want this group to continue as the Ruben one-man show with
> >> > whomever you happen to have coaxed along for this week, that's fine
> >> > also. You have done many things as the Ruben one man show, and I am
> >> > sure you will continue as you have been doing. Just don't call it a
> >> > democracy.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marco
> >> > ____________________________
> >> > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> >> > Fair Use -
> >> > because it's either fair use or useless....
> >> > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> >> >
> >>--
> >>__________________________
> >>Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> >>__________________________
> >>DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
> >>
> >>http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> >>http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
> >>http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> >>articles from around the net
> >>http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> >>
> >>1-718-382-0585
> >>____________________________
> >>NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> >>Fair Use -
> >>because it's either fair use or useless....
> >>NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
> >
> >Mr. Joseph A. Maffia, CPA
> >Rosenzweig & Maffia LLP
> >845 Third Ave. #1300
> >New York, NY 10022
> >212-980-2470 x16
> >212-980-2177 fax
> >www.rm-cpa.com
> >
> >
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> >in this matter.
>
> Mr. Joseph A. Maffia, CPA
> Rosenzweig & Maffia LLP
> 845 Third Ave. #1300
> New York, NY 10022
> 212-980-2470 x16
> 212-980-2177 fax
> www.rm-cpa.com
>
>
> E-MAIL NOTICE
> This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is for the sole use of
> the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> information. Any review, use, disclosure or distribution by persons or
> entities other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If
> you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply and
> destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you for your cooperation
> in this matter.
>
--
__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-0585
____________________________
NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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