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DATE | 2003-04-25 |
FROM | vin
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
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On Friday 25 April 2003 00:37, Marco Scoffier wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 08:27:33PM -0400, vin wrote: > > While NYLXS may not have the piece of paper that says it is a non-profit, > > and therefore donations are tax-deductible, it might be worth mentioning > > this to the graphic design company. > > Yes I told them. > I haven't had alot of contact just an email confirming what Jonathan had > told me. > $15 is what the liquidator would have paid.
> (how do we get in on that business ?)
Simple.
1. You find storage space where you can store dozens of container loads of computers and office furniture prior to auction, at an affordable price. Don't forget to deduct the storage costs, and all of the other overhead mentioned below from the selling price. And don't forget throwing out all the chairs whose gas has leaked past the seal while in storage. And the broken plastic wheels while moving them. And all the other damage to the furniture while moving.
2. You hire a work force that is unionized, because you have to be unionized or you can't get into some buildings in NYC. And if you do get in to others, you'll have problems with the elevator union.
3. You buy the moving vans/trucks at $40,000-$60,000 a piece, and get the relevant truck insurance.
4. You get the workman's comp with the required deposit running around $20,000-$40,000 or so if you are careful and have some experience with the 1,000 lb gorilla, the State Insurance Fund.
5. You get the $2,000,000 or better liability policy the publicly traded companies require.
6. You find an environmental waste disposer that will pick up the faulty monitors that contain 5 lbs of lead and other toxins, and other toxin laden computer parts that you can't sell. Be prepared to become his bitch, because once you do business with one, that will be the only one for the rest of your company's existence, and your rate will climb at a faster rate than health insurance rates are climbing.
7. You hire a good auctioneer, who you'll need to sell everything, or sell whatever you can't sell using other methods.
8. You design the web page for selling/advertising the merchandise.
9. You figure out how/who to contact for as many businesses as possible so they know what you have available. No home calls unless you buy the NYS do not call list for $500.00. No spam email contacts. No junk faxes for advertising.
10. You find a place to park the moving vans at night. Last I remember, the rate was $250 per month per van, if you're lucky.
11. You find a good truck mechanic that will only steal you half blind instead of completely blind. And if he really is only stealing you half blind, and is a heavy truck mechanic, send me his number. I know a few trucking companies that could use him.
12. Get the tip money ready for the elevator guys. Plan on $100.00 or better per shift per elevator, or your elevator will develop "problems". And if its just an hour? Still a $100.00 or more for the elevator guy. You might get away with less if its less than a truckload and can be moved fast, but don't plan on being back in that building while the same elevator guy is still working there in his lifetime.
13. Lets not forget the elevator "rental" from management. At small (under 25 floors) I've seen $95 per hour, and $400 per hour, and everything in between.
13b. You did remember to take care of the local 3 electricians for the large companies, right? You are aware that it takes a local 3 electrician to disconnect the computer in those buildings, right? To disconnect the copy machine. The printer. The water cooler. The desk lamps. The...right? You are aware of local 3 rates, right? And local 3 tipping requirements, right? If you're smart, you'll have the company do as much as possible prior to you getting there, but once you get there, the hats will still be out. And last I saw, the cost to physically remove the computer from the desk to the loading dock exceeded $50.00 each. If I remember correctly, it far exceeds that. You should be able to google it and find the real world rates on this.
14. Get ready to pay your union guys for displaying the items for the auctions, then moving the sold items to the loading dock for pickup, and moving the items back to storage that don't sell, and moving the garbage to the garbage container.
15. Let's not forget the union health benefits, annuity, pension, no shows, delegates, and the gimps the union will be sending you for labor because you haven't started greasing their wheels yet. And because the others have been at it longer, and have been greasing the wheels longer. A good rule of thumb is 3x wages is your overall hourly labor cost.
16. Don't forget the shop steward who's going to sit in your office and make an occasional appointment for pickups in between his coffees and doughnuts and lunches and smoke breaks and check cashing breaks and union business calls and trips to pick up the payroll checks from your payroll service office and...
Ohhh, did you mean just yourself in one truck? Then forget every major business in the metropolitan area. And throw in the elevator/union problems, at an increased level.
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Play lotto. You have better odds of making it.
Vin.
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