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DATE | 2003-03-27 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] jays sectet letter (with the rest of the conversation)
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 01:03:51 -0400 From: Ruben I Safir To: Seth Johnson Subject: Re: Help us Follow up with the DOC on DRM? Message-ID: <20020913010351.A18769-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <3D81479C.493A3285-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> <20020913000704.C16799-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20020913000912.E16799-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <3D816D40.8206E401-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <3D816D40.8206E401-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org>; from seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org on Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 00:44:48 -0400 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Status: RO Content-Length: 5454 Lines: 153
Cool
But I don't forget that you and me have been the real foot soldiers.
There is no NY Fair Use without you and I showing up for every meeting, often just me and you
On 2002.09.13 00:44 Seth Johnson wrote: > > I surmised that about a week or two ago. I figured the > location of the various servers explains a bit about the > history of NY Fair Use and NYLXS. > > I actually bcc'd him and RMS on the emails to Dave and Dan. > > Seth > > Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > > BTW > > > > Bret Wynkoop, believe it or not, is the co-founder of NY Fairuse > > > > wynkoop-at-wynn.com > > > > It's backbone has been you and me. > > > > If anyone should come, it should be you. You understand the issue > > as well as anyone, not that arguing details is of any import. > > > > Ruben > > > > On 2002.09.13 00:07 Ruben I Safir wrote: > > > Seth > > > > > > I'm not certain the process is open and that we have the ability to invite > > > anyone we want. > > > > > > But we can use some man power right now rewriting to DOC report and organizing the > > > three staged protests in Washington, NYC and NC > > > > > > > > > Ruben > > > > > > On 2002.09.12 22:04 Seth Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > > David: > > > > > > > > We are undertaking a very significant followup move in the > > > > Department of Commerce DRM front, early next week. I would > > > > like to know if you might be interested in playing a role in > > > > this. I believe your input stands a chance of making a > > > > great difference, helping Bond understand the impact of > > > > government-imposed DRM on the interests of ordinary > > > > citizens. > > > > > > > > This is a very important juncture -- representatives of the > > > > public could very well stand in the way of > > > > government-sanctioned universal content control, if we were > > > > to speak out very clearly and effectively right at this > > > > point. > > > > > > > > I believe you know the thrust we have been taking on this: > > > > "We Are the Stakeholders" and "DRM is Theft." If you can > > > > possibly help us illustrate and substantiate what we're > > > > saying, and if so, participate with us, would you follow up > > > > with Ruben Safir and/or Jay Sulzberger? I have cc'd them. > > > > They would be able to explain the nature of the event in > > > > question, including the question of bringing in others, and > > > > exactly where we are right now in the interactions with the > > > > Commerce Department. > > > > > > > > Seth Johnson > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > [CC] Counter-copyright: > > > > http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/cc/cc.html > > > > > > > > I reserve no rights restricting copying, modification or > > > > distribution of this incidentally recorded communication. > > > > Original authorship should be attributed reasonably, but > > > > only so far as such an expectation might hold for usual > > > > practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no > > > > claim of exclusive rights. > > > > > > > -- > > > __________________________ > > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > > > __________________________ > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you... > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________ > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > > __________________________ > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you... > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn.... > > > > 1-718-382-5752 > > -- > > [CC] Counter-copyright: > http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/cc/cc.html > > I reserve no rights restricting copying, modification or > distribution of this incidentally recorded communication. > Original authorship should be attributed reasonably, but > only so far as such an expectation might hold for usual > practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no > claim of exclusive rights. > -- __________________________
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1-718-382-5752
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