MESSAGE
| DATE | 2003-02-27 |
| FROM | vin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation
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On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:18, Billy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:18:57PM -0500, vin wrote:
> > At the time of registration, Ruben Safir was President, and the then
> > current President specifically directed that the domain not be
> > registered.
>
> This was a HUGE mistake... NYLXS is much more a .org than a .com.
> It was ridiculous to order that it simply NOT be registered.
> If Brett didn't do it first, I would have registered it myself.
This has already been addresses by Ruben, but there are too many domains, and
at that time, the cost was prohibitive. Network Solutions/Verisign was being
used, and that's $70 a pop. The same tactic could have been pulled with any
of the other domains. At the time this cropped up, the search engines
weren't being used to locate the site. It was specific links inside of
specific web pages, relating to the 7/17 action and other events. Any tld
would have achieved similar results. Issuing an order by the then current
President not to register ANY domain with any extension was proper at that
time. Defending the trademark is what is at issue now, as it was then, not
finding out every conceivable tld and every conceivable typosquatting on
variations of the NYLXS trademark, and enriching verisign in the process.
>
> > Had the US and other countries not taken the forceful stance it has,
> > there wouldn't even be "inspectors" in Iraq right now. Commentators,
> > even from the lunatic fringe have admitted this. I believe even
> > what's her face Garafolo admitted this some months ago before she took
> > an even more public anti-war stance.
>
> Let's leave McCarthyist blacklisting of Peace activists out of this.
> You said yourself that this isn't an appropriate forum for geopolitics.
> By the same token, this isn't a place to bash people like Garofalo for
> their political views.
McCarthyist blacklisting? Who's doing that? And from documentation that was
found in former soviet countries after the USSR fell, most major newspapers
carried stories that vindicated the "Red Scare", and vindicated the execution
of the Rosenbergs. People can choose to believe the facts that came out, or
choose to believe what they want to believe. McCarthy's tactics were
terrible, but the motivation behind it was accurate, as reported by even the
NYT, WSJ, NYDN, NYP, and others when the documentation was uncovered and
released in the former USSR after it fell.
I forgot Garofalo's first name, so I'm bashing her? Or is it the accurate
statement of what she did? Prior to the large push by actors, she was on
talk shows and news programs with an anti-war stance (is "anti-war stance"
bashing?). She had not yet solidified her position or tactic, or so it
appeared on the earlier shows. She was basically "asking questions". At the
same time, in response to one news show's question, she admitted that had the
US and other countries not taken the forceful stance that it has, there
wouldn't be any "inspectors" in Iraq right now (is this bashing?). Since the
earlier talk show rounds she made a couple of months ago, and prior to Tim
Robbins/Susan Sarandon and some others getting out in public on this issue,
and now, she has changed her rhetoric (is rhetoric bashing?). She is has
abandoned the "questions" tactic, and has gone full out anti-war (is using
the term "anti-war" instead of "going full out pro-peace" bashing?).
There's lunatic fringe on both sides. And they are lunatics on both sides.
The lunatics on the right don't need to get out like the actors on the left
are doing, since most of the right is doing it for them. And btw, I wouldn't
put First Name Can't Remember Garofalo in the lunatic fringe camp. I would
put the bald dude commentator on CNN in the left lunatic fringe camp as one
example. And I think even his co-hosts would agree.
Vin.
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