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| DATE | 2003-02-17 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] [root@www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive]
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To: fairuse-announce-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:42:50 -0400 (EDT)
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This is the announce list
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:00:28 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Fair Use Meeting Tomorrow Nite
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Reminder that tomorrow we are meeting to discuss phase two of
our DMCA repeal stratergy.
The meeting is at 82 Beaver Street
The Pub is named Killarny Rose on
Beaver. Perl and Wall Street.
Time: Wed, 7:30PM
--
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: Leonid Gorkin
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] Fair Use Meeting Tomorrow Nite
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There are some talks on DMITRY-PLAN to hold a IRC
summit to coordinate efforts between local organizers.
Although time is not set yet, chances are that it will
happen tonight. Does anyone have a notebook with
wireless connection so we can participate in IRC talk
during our meeting?
See you tonight,
--lg
--- Brooklyn Linux Solutions
wrote:
>
> Reminder that tomorrow we are meeting to discuss
> phase two of
> our DMCA repeal stratergy.
>
> The meeting is at 82 Beaver Street
> The Pub is named Killarny Rose on
> Beaver. Perl and Wall Street.
>
> Time: Wed, 7:30PM
>
> --
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> http://www.brooklynonline.com
>
> 1-718-382-5752
> ____________________________
> New Yorkers for Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:39:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] Fair Use Meeting Tomorrow Nite
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We havce really a fully plate for tonite.
Have them do it on the Weekend
>
> There are some talks on DMITRY-PLAN to hold a IRC
> summit to coordinate efforts between local organizers.
> Although time is not set yet, chances are that it will
> happen tonight. Does anyone have a notebook with
> wireless connection so we can participate in IRC talk
> during our meeting?
> See you tonight,
> --lg
>
> --- Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> wrote:
> >
> > Reminder that tomorrow we are meeting to discuss
> > phase two of
> > our DMCA repeal stratergy.
> >
> > The meeting is at 82 Beaver Street
> > The Pub is named Killarny Rose on
> > Beaver. Perl and Wall Street.
> >
> > Time: Wed, 7:30PM
> >
> > --
> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> > http://www.brooklynonline.com
> >
> > 1-718-382-5752
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorkers for Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger
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>
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To: Leonid Gorkin
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:47:56 -0400
Subject: Re: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] Fair Use Meeting Tomorrow Nite
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I was just thinking, it is very interesting that we are holding this
meeting at this location. NYC has a long history of city government and
political movements stemming from Bar's within a few hundred feet of this
pub.
Infact, the first City Hall was in a Pub, about 100 feet from the Rose.
Here's to making history!
Ruben
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:13:07 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Thursday Meeting
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Because of the Gnubie Meeting and LXNY
We are putting off the fair use meeting until
Thursday Night
7:30
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NYC
2nd Floor
We will be having a sign making party for the following
weeks protests
Ruben
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http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:05:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [fairuse-announce] Thursday Meeting
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Did I mention that the Free Dmitry Protest is at 12Noon on Monday?
I'm running fever here so, everyone, please forgive me for being a
little behind the curve.
Ruben
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On 2001.08.06 09:13:07 -0400 Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
Because of the Gnubie Meeting and LXNY
We are putting off the fair use meeting until
Thursday Night
7:30
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NYC
2nd Floor
We will be having a sign making party for the following
weeks protests
Ruben
--
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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New Yorkers for Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
--
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:55:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Fair Use Action - Meeting Announcement
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Greeting
With some of the dust settling, and many ideas beginning
to crystal, this is a critical meeting Thurday Nite (today).
Please join us as we start to move towards positive action this
week. We will be focusing on signs, pamphlets, and targeting
Congressional districts this week. We are also going to make
some decisions including White Powder Wigs, singing America the
Beautiful while minding folks that such performance of copyrighted
material is a CRIME under the DMCA...and other things we can think
which are outragous enough to enlighten the NYC prolateriate.
7:30PM (I'll be there at 7 if anyone wants to talk).
Dinner is available at a good price.
The Killarny Rose Pub
2nd Floor
82 Beaver Street
At Wall St, Perl, and Hanover.
Meeting generally go on until 11PM.
Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:55:00 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Thursday Meeting NY Fairuse
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Hello
We had a very sucessful protest today in front of the NYPL...we even got
chaced by
the cops....
We need to discuss protest business including no sticks....
Next Meeting is Thursday at 7:30PM
Same Place
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NY NY
Wall, Beaver, and Pearl street.
Agenda:
Protest business - no sticks
Congressional donations from aap, mpaa, and the music business.
Talking Points
Plans for the first neighborhood drop...and congressional contacts.
Ruben
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: David Sugar
Organization: OST
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:46:43 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [nylug-talk] Thursday Meeting NY Fairuse
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Is being chased by the cops a measure of success for this? Actually, it was
in the case of Ghandi, in part because they were able to get and present a
clearly unreasonable response that set the mind of the public who was wrong.
I am not sure protesters in this country today could be that self disciplined
as was required for something like that. Did people bring sticks?!
Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
> Hello
>
> We had a very sucessful protest today in front of the NYPL...we even got
> chaced by
> the cops....
>
> We need to discuss protest business including no sticks....
>
> Next Meeting is Thursday at 7:30PM
>
> Same Place
>
> Killarny Rose
> 82 Beaver Street
> NY NY
> Wall, Beaver, and Pearl street.
>
> Agenda:
> Protest business - no sticks
> Congressional donations from aap, mpaa, and the music business.
> Talking Points
> Plans for the first neighborhood drop...and congressional contacts.
>
> Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:36:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [nylug-talk] Thursday Meeting NY Fairuse
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> Is being chased by the cops a measure of success for this?
Only in that it means our profile is growing.
>Did people bring sticks?!
>
To carry signs. Vaugns is quite impressive.
Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:14:02 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Thursday Meeting NY Fairuse
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Dave
Are you coming Thursday nite?
Ruben
<Is being chased by the cops a measure of success for this? Actually, it
was
in the case of Ghandi, in part because they were able to get and present a
clearly unreasonable response that set the mind of the public who was
wrong.
I am not sure protesters in this country today could be that self
disciplined
as was required for something like that. Did people bring sticks?!>>
--
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: David Sugar
Organization: OST
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:54:43 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: Thursday Meeting NY Fairuse
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I dont know. I know I am going to be in town Wed. because I also have some
business to do even before the Nylug meeting, but Thur, night I already had
something I was somewhat comitted for. I would like to come though.
David
Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
> Dave
>
> Are you coming Thursday nite?
>
>
> Ruben
>
>
> <> Is being chased by the cops a measure of success for this? Actually, it
> was
> in the case of Ghandi, in part because they were able to get and present a
> clearly unreasonable response that set the mind of the public who was
> wrong.
> I am not sure protesters in this country today could be that self
> disciplined
> as was required for something like that. Did people bring sticks?!>>
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:58:12 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Meeting Anouncement
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New Yorkers for Fair Use are having our weekly meeting at the
Killarny Rose Pub
Thursday Nite at 7:30
Informal discussion will start at 6:30 where I'll
be having a few beers.
82 Beaver Street
NY
Wall, Beaver, and Perl Streets,
Downtown Manhattan.
We will be reviewing our talking points and evaluating their
results on Thursday from the Protest.
We will be discussing our first Congressional incurrsion
into Senater Schumers haunt next week.
Everyone with any interest in defeating the DMCA and laws
which abuse copyright at the expense of Fair Use are urged to attend
and to take action.
Ruben
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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From: Vagn Scott
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:17:59 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] New Yorkers for Fair Use Weekly Meeting -- 23 Aug (REVISED)
NEW YORKERS FOR FAIR USE WEEKLY MEETING (UPDATED)
CONTACT: VAGN SCOTT, 1-917-209-4043, VAGN-at-RANOK.COM
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Announcing:
New Yorkers for Fair Use Weekly Meeting -- 23 Aug (REVISED)
Who should attend:
"Everyone with any interest in defeating the DMCA and
laws which abuse copyright at the expense of Fair Use
are urged to attend and to take action." -- Ruben
When:
Thursday 23 August 2001, at 7:30pm.
Where:
Killarny Rose Pub
82 Beaver Street, NYC
Near intersection of Wall, Beaver,
and Perl Streets in downtown Manhattan.
Accomodations:
Downstairs there is a bar and restaurant
(cafeteria style). There is a large upstairs
room where we will meet, and an adjoining pub.
The upstairs room closes at about 10pm,
after which we may continue downstairs
if there is any remaining business.
Chair:
J. Ercole has accepted the burden of squeezing
a drop of order from this massif of chaos.
Contacts:
Vagn Scott, 1-917-209-4043, vagn-at-ranok.com
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# The times marked |nn| sum to 147 minutes (2 hours 27 minutes).
Other marks:
** marks chair, or chair pro temp for a committee.
+++ considered urgent (by me)
---> a reminder that I have to bring something
(n.) a "soft" item -- not expected to appear on next agenda
A tape recorder will be used as a crutch by a slow typists.
If you do not want your statements recorded please say so.
Agenda:
I roll call: |5|
vagn (whip pro temp):
1. introductions
2. present/absent/new/dropped/late
3. contact info (public/private/changes)
---> signup sheets
4. your existing role, or what you are willing to do
II accept agenda |2|
(0.) vagn -- motion to accept agenda
Note that I have put myself forward
as chair (pro temp) for all committees
that exist on paper only. This is
only to expedite matters at this meeting.
I hope that the need for these committees
will be agreed to, and that they can be
properly staffed over time.
1. vote
2. additions
3. deletions
III reading of minutes: |2|
secretary:
(1'.) Noah (two weeks ago)
(2'.) additions/deletions/changes
(3'.) vote to accept minutes
secretary (pro temp): |2|
1. Ruben (last week)
2. additions/deletions/changes
3. vote to accept minutes
IV old business: |3|
(1.) from last meeting:
a. how do we get the meeting going on time
vagn -- motion that the gavel falls
at 7:30pm. If you are not there than
you are late (possibly with good reason).
b. pamphlets assign responsibility
vagn -- motion: since this (IV.1.b) is on
today's agenda as well, it does not need to
be discussed here.
c. rachel's research about congresscritters
vagn -- motion: since this (IV.1.c) is on
today's agenda as well, it does not need to
be discussed here.
d. cost to NYC of DMCA covered material
"a lot of material that should already be in PD"
vagn -- motion: since this (IV.1.d) is on
today's agenda as well, it does not need to
be discussed here.
e. what happened in the national meeting
(I believe ruben participated, and can
make a report.)
V new business: |7|
(1.) who is whip? -- anticipate attendance,
handle personnel issues, manage
backups (ie, someone drops out, so
find a replacement).
vagn -- motion to appoint whip.
- call for volunteers
- nominations/seconds
- vote
(2.) format and structure:
vagn -- motion that the formats and structures
you see in this document be adopted as a guide
for future announcements, agendas,
and as a first order approximation of the
structure of the developing organization.
---> hard copies of this document
VI committee reports:
1. correspondence & communications: |7|
**vagn (pro temp):
letters:
phone calls:
misc conversations:
j.ercole expressed willingness to make
initial contact with congresscritters
and staffers. One object is to get
quotable material for the flyers.
j.ercole expressed a desire to follow
through on contacts at the Voice to
get press coverage of Emma give away
on monday.
press release:
meeting announcments:
event announcments;
mailing lists:
nyfairuse:
issue: latency
20 minutes between queue runs?
nyfairuse-announce:
nyfairuse-private:
other:
web presence:
address book:
contact list:
vagn -- motion to elect a chair for the
correspondence and communications committee.
- call for volunteers
- nominations/seconds
- vote
2. publications: |5|
**vagn (pro temp):
+++ a. fair use pamphlet:
The overview, primary purpose
to sweep away mistaken notions
of copyright vs fair use so that
the readers are receptive to
arguments against the DMCA based
on the Doctrine of Fair Use.
joe.e -- motion for ad-hoc first effort for sunday,
distributable version for monday.
Importance of propaganda -- especially
pamphlets -- the american revolution
got started with thomas paine and
"common sense".
joe.e will present draft.
b. DMCA reader:
Collection of pointers to
stuff on the web.
c. activists handbook:
This is how we scale up the effort.
+++ d. librarian's kit:
We said we would do this. Who is we?
e. files and templates:
Useful stuff. The sources.
vagn -- motion to elect a chair for
the publications committee.
- call for volunteers
- nominations/seconds
- vote
3. support services |5|
**vagn (pro temp):
metrics:
what are we measuring
flyers
demos
signatures
e-mail addresses
"regulars"
what are the goals
where do we stand
training:
required resources:
identify specialists in:
irc
mail
web
graphics
networking
programming
electronics
mechanics
politics
organization
law
history
journalism
editing
psychology
entertainment
public relations
transportation
photographer/video/sound
typography
typesetting/printing
drawing and cartooning
costumes
(and the rest of the useful arts and sciences)
vagn -- motion to elect a chair for
support services.
- call for volunteers
- nominations/seconds
- vote
+++ 4. petitioning: |5|
**vagn (pro temp):
vagn -- the national petition drive
runs through Sept. we should make
more petition books, and then take
every opportunity to gain signatures.
---> - petition books
---> - e-mail section added to petition book
---> - more petitions for more congresscritters
5. demonstrations: |5|
**leonid:
---> vagn -- copies of after action report
stopper rap:
vagn -- a candidate was posted to the
list Sunday. No feedback yet seen.
---> bring printed copies of existing rap.
I would prefer the stopper be discussed
on the list before it is brought to
the floor.
joe.e -- seek synergy; we want to get in front of
other press events. keep ear to the ground about
who these guys are (MIB).
6. stunts: |8|
**vagn:
skits (2)
songs (2)
---> Emma give away
Call for volunteers to rehearse, test,
and perform these stunts. If you have
musical or dramatic training, or
experience at any level, or simply want
to have some fun, please step forward.
If you can play an instrument, please
step forward. If you are willing to
stand and read to a crowd, please step
forward. the linux birthday picnic
would be a good time and place to
experiment with these ideas.
I think if we can record and publish some
of these things it will help draw attention
to our cause.
+++ use "Emma stunt" to draw attention to the
value of the PD material.
Announce as counterpoint to Penguin release,
but don't mention Penguin in literature.
Make it focus of next demonstration.
"Free Dmitry"
"Tell the Truth"
Flyers about Fair Use
Emma give away
1 full paper copy
10 first chapters
10 CDs
20 Floppies
500 pointers to URL
Press Release Faxed Friday Morning.
7. research: |8|
**vagn(pro temp):
vagn -- motion to elect a committee chair.
vagn -- nominate rachel to committee chair.
**rachel (presumably):
jay & ??
topic of research: cost to NYC of DMCA covered
material there is a lot of material that should
already be in PD and there is... ...want to
quantify that, as report, so we can publish and
quote it in our pamphlet.
topic of research: congress and money
8. canvasing: |45|
**ruben:
Ruben -- We will be discussing our
first Congressional incurrsion into
Senater Schumer's haunt next week.
9. outreach: |5|
**??:
10. funding: |5|
**vagn (pro temp):
11. membership: |5|
**vagn (pro temp):
12. recreation: |5|
**Forest -- linux birthday party.
VII other business: |10|
It is normal for unanticipated issues to
surface during a meeting. This is when
they should be discussed.
VIII items for next week's agenda: |5|
(1.) vagn -- motion that the structure of this agenda
be accepted as the usual agenda at the level marked
with Roman Numerals, and Arabic Numerals (excluding
soft items). And further, that agenda items at lower
levels be proposed by the responsible chairs.
(2.) declaration of agenda items by responsible chairs.
(3.) motions for additions/changes from the floor.
This is the time for suggestions of the
form "I think we should be doing XXX".
It would be really good if XXX had first
seen some discussion on the list.
IX ratify the agenda for the next meeting: |2|
This gives us a page that we can all work from.
We should all strive to get as much closure
on agenda items as possible before they come
up in a meeting.
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Corrections and additions gratefully accepted. --vagn
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:58:14 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] New Yorkers for Fair Use Weekly Meeting -- 23 Aug (REVISED)
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This should be on mailing list, although I seem mail right away on several
accounts
nyfairuse:
issue: latency
20 minutes between queue runs?
--
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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Cc: fairuse-announce-at-mrbrklyn.com
From: Vagn Scott
Organization: vDL
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:33:56 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: ttest latency
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
>
> This should be on mailing list, although I seem mail right away on several
> accounts
>
> nyfairuse:
> issue: latency
> 20 minutes between queue runs?
>
12:33 is the time I send this
--
_~|__
>-at- (vagn( /
\`-ooooooooo-'/
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From: Vagn Scott
Organization: vDL
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:37:24 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] Re: ttest latency
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Vagn Scott wrote:
>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
> >
> > This should be on mailing list, although I seem mail right away on several
> > accounts
> >
> > nyfairuse:
> > issue: latency
> > 20 minutes between queue runs?
> >
>
> 12:33 is the time I send this
12:34 I see it on the list.
now it works. how strange. You are right, though,
the issue should have been raised on the list.
Anyway, I am taking it off the proposed agenda.
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:46:13 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [fairuse] Re: ttest latency
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There may have been congestion on the upstream
Ruben
On 2001.08.23 12:37:24 -0400 Vagn Scott wrote:
Vagn Scott wrote:
>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions wrote:
> >
> > This should be on mailing list, although I seem mail right away on
several
> > accounts
> >
> > nyfairuse:
> > issue: latency
> > 20 minutes between queue runs?
> >
>
> 12:33 is the time I send this
12:34 I see it on the list.
now it works. how strange. You are right, though,
the issue should have been raised on the list.
Anyway, I am taking it off the proposed agenda.
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:48:58 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Fair Use Meeting
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The Weekly New Yorkers for Fair Use meeting is on
Thursday Nite at 7:30. Informal discussion starts at 6:30.
The location is
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NY NY
We meet on the second Floor.
At the Corner or Wall St, Beaver, and Pearl Street.
Inexpensive but excellent food is available, as is a fully stocked Bar.
Things are REALLY heating up as we are going to be doing our first
canvassing hopefully next week. We are going to discuss the Monday
Demonstation venue. Then we are moving on to The Canvassing Talking points
I posted on the list for aproval. We are selecting Buttons, and setting a
firm date and time for the canvassing in Chuck Schumer's Neighborhood in
Park Slope Brooklyn USA. This is also Nadler's Congressional District.
The goals were listed before on the mailing list.
We are also going to cover the national Free Dmitry petition.
If you care at all about fairu Use and the protection of information
access, or free speach, this meeting is your best chance to make a real
positive difference on the future.
Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:48:58 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Fair Use Meeting
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The Weekly New Yorkers for Fair Use meeting is on
Thursday Nite at 7:30. Informal discussion starts at 6:30.
The location is
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NY NY
We meet on the second Floor.
At the Corner or Wall St, Beaver, and Pearl Street.
Inexpensive but excellent food is available, as is a fully stocked Bar.
Things are REALLY heating up as we are going to be doing our first
canvassing hopefully next week. We are going to discuss the Monday
Demonstation venue. Then we are moving on to The Canvassing Talking points
I posted on the list for aproval. We are selecting Buttons, and setting a
firm date and time for the canvassing in Chuck Schumer's Neighborhood in
Park Slope Brooklyn USA. This is also Nadler's Congressional District.
The goals were listed before on the mailing list.
We are also going to cover the national Free Dmitry petition.
If you care at all about fairu Use and the protection of information
access, or free speach, this meeting is your best chance to make a real
positive difference on the future.
Ruben
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http://www.brooklynonline.com
1-718-382-5752
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To: fairuse-announce-at-mrbrklyn.com, fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com
From: Vagn Scott
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:41:13 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] New Yorkers for Fair Use Weekly Meeting -- 30 Aug
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NEW YORKERS FOR FAIR USE WEEKLY MEETING -- 30 AUG
CONTACT: VAGN SCOTT, 1-917-209-4043, VAGN-at-RANOK.COM
last edit:
Thu Aug 30 17:39:41 EDT 2001
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Announcing:
New Yorkers for Fair Use Weekly Meeting -- 30 Aug
Who should attend:
"Everyone with any interest in defeating the DMCA and
laws which abuse copyright at the expense of Fair Use
are urged to attend and to take action." -- Ruben
When:
Thursday 30 August 2001, at 7:30pm.
Where:
Killarny Rose Pub
82 Beaver Street, NYC
Near intersection of Wall, Beaver,
and Perl Streets in downtown Manhattan.
Accomodations:
Downstairs there is a bar and restaurant
(cafeteria style). There is a large upstairs
room where we will meet, and an adjoining pub.
The upstairs room closes at about 10pm,
after which we may continue downstairs
if there is any remaining business.
Chair:
J. Ercole.
Contacts:
Vagn Scott, 1-917-209-4043, vagn-at-ranok.com
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Agenda below: Corrections and additions gratefully accepted. --vagn
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Agenda:
I. Call to Order
II. Opening Ceremonies (optional)
III. Roll Call
(only 4 membership forms handed in last meeting:
membership is important -- it is our protection
against "ringers" should we ever attract that kind
of attention.)
IV. Reading and Approval of Minutes
V. Reports of Officers, Boards, and Standing Committees
a. Leonid's motion to suspend monday demonstrations.
b. appoint whip.
c. reports from the chairs.
1. correspondence & communications
seth:
2. publications
3. support services (arts & sciences)
4. petitioning
vagn: hand out book kits
5. demonstrations
leonid:
6. stunts
vagn:
7. research
8. canvasing
ruben:
Things are REALLY heating up as we are going to be
doing our first canvassing hopefully next week.
We are going to discuss the Monday Demonstation
venue. Then we are moving on to The Canvassing
Talking points I posted on the list for aproval.
We are selecting Buttons, and setting a firm date
and time for the canvassing in Chuck Schumer's
Neighborhood in Park Slope Brooklyn USA. This is
also Nadler's Congressional District.
Schummer Plan:
Canvas Park Slope Brooklyn, which is Schummer's
home neighborhood.
Goal is to cover 2000 Homes over 4 weeks,
canvassing one day a week.
Leaflet with hand outs.
Petition Signature
Urge Letter writing and to sign up new membership
to help with the future campaigns.
Focus on the negative impact of the DMCA on the
digital divide, cost to education and the focus
to close the public libraries.
10 people that is 50 homes per person.
If we can, we want to simultaneously target local
shopping district of 7th Ave to re-enforce the
issues (get people coming and going).
Possible Sunday Nite commitment. Possible follow
up during the week with leafleting at the 7th
Ave Train Station and the Union Street train
station during the evening rush.
Campain Buttons should be printed - Two Buttons:
Free Dmitry
Repeal the DMCA.
Leaflets should be simple - 7 Bullet points
Target the election season.
9. outreach
10. funding
11. recruiting
VI. Reports of Special Committees (announced only if such
committees are prepared or instructed to report)
VII. Special Orders (announced only if there are special orders)
VIII. Unfinished Business and General Orders
IX. New Business
X. Next meeting and agenda items
XI ratify the agenda for the next meeting
XII. Announcements
XIII. Program (if a program or a speaker is planned for the meeting)
IVX. Adjourn
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:17:01 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] DMCA Repeal Campain - Sunday Aug 9
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New Yorkers for Fair USe is announcing our first canvassing efforts
in Senator Schumers back yard, at 9AM on Sunday Aug 9th.
Time: Aug 9th 9AM
Mobilization: 10AM
Canvassing Leaflets, block assignments, and marching orders are to be
handed out
as we hit door to door to cover the neighborhood. When we get finished,
noone in the community should be unaware of the impact of the DMCA on
Libraries, Education and Fair Use.
If you want to be involved in this very importnt work, email me as soon as
possible to signup for buttons, paperwork and petitions.
So far we have about 15 people commited to this action, but more is better.
This is not a demonstatration, and letting us know that your planning to
show up to canvass, and to get instructions, is important.
We will be starting off by hitting the local evening rush next week, and
doing a speach at the Food Co-op, and the Atlantic Antic.
Time is ticking, we have to hit on this now. Tuesday nite we will meet on
IRC at
10PM on irc.linux.com #nylug, to hammer out some issues.
Ruben
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Cc: , ,
From: "J.E. Cripps"
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:29:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [nylug-talk] DMCA Repeal Campain - Sunday Aug 9 ??
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> Time: Aug 9th 9AM
>
> Mobilization: 10AM
>
> Canvassing Leaflets, block assignments, and marching orders are to be
> handed out
> as we hit door to door to cover the neighborhood. When we get finished,
> noone in the community should be unaware of the impact of the DMCA on
> Libraries, Education and Fair Use.
AUGUST? hmm, plenty of time to prepare
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:28:53 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Re: [nylug-talk] DMCA Repeal Campain - Sunday Sep 9 ??
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Right
September
On 2001.09.02 00:29:47 -0400 J.E. Cripps wrote:
> Time: Aug 9th 9AM
>
> Mobilization: 10AM
>
> Canvassing Leaflets, block assignments, and marching orders are to be
> handed out
> as we hit door to door to cover the neighborhood. When we get finished,
> noone in the community should be unaware of the impact of the DMCA on
> Libraries, Education and Fair Use.
AUGUST? hmm, plenty of time to prepare
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:04:00 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] NY Fairusue Meeting
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Thursday Nite was are having our regular NY FAIRUSE meeting at the usual
place,
When:
Killarny Rose
82 Beaver Street
NY NY
Wall Street, Beaver and Pearl Street
2nd Floor
Time: 6:30PM informal discussion
7:30 Formal Meeting
Adgenda:
Plans for the repeal the DMCA campain: Canvassing Action planned next
Sunday Morning"
Literature:
Sample Letters to Senator Schulmer and Representitives
Area Covered
Buttons.
Leafleting action
Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:14:13 -0400
Subject: [fairuse-announce] Sunday Canvassing
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Canvassing continues this Sunday. Breakfast is on my, we meet at 9AM Sharp
under the Arch
at Grand Army Plaza in Brooklyn.
Take the IRT to Grand Army Plaza or the Q Train to 7th Avenue.
We are gathering petiitions and handing out inforatoin and buttons about
the DMCA
and it's abuse of fair use.
Ruben
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From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:14:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [fairuse-announce] Sunday Canvassing
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That is Breakfast is on me....
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