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| DATE | 2003-02-17 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
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This one from the NYLUG archive is good:
http://www.nylug.org/mlist/nylug-talk_mhonarc/2001-07/msg01102.html
You'll notice at the end of this message I'm identifed as the SOLE
founder of NY Fair Use in July of 2001
Hmmm
* To: nylug-talk-at-nylug.org, fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com
* Subject: [nylug-talk] Lobby Group for Fair USe, DMCA
* From: Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO
* Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:18:41 -0400 (EDT)
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Sorry for being late on this. Vagn has the other half of the notes, but I rewrote the minuters of our
meeting for primary review. I want to fill out the bios if possible, please email me details.
Ruben
Next Meeting is Wednesday, place to be anounced
Present:
Wendy Seltzer: Harvard Graduate Lawyer and founder of the
Open Law initiative.
Noah Sussman - Senior Wed Designer for deltathree.
Sean Aurita
Joe Katz
Forest M*rs
Vagn Scott - Regular NYLUG member and co-leader of the Free-Dmitry
anti-adobe protests.
Lyn Ohare - Regular NYLUG member, Founder of GNUBBIES,
graduate of NYU, Japanese Translator.
JoeAnn Cripps - Regular NYLUG member
Seth Johnson
Ruben Sair - Regular NYLUG member, founder of http://www.nyfairue.org
CEO of Brooklyn Linux Solutions
On 2003.02.15 07:25 Stanley A. Klein wrote:
>
> At 02:40 PM 2/15/2003 -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:11:17PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
> >> I would argue that a sound economic foundation for Free Software
> >> is the most important thing to society at this junction.
> >>
> >> Arrangements that lead to more funding for free software development
> >> would be good, of course, all else being equal.
> >
> >It' not just funding of Free Software development, it's a fund of the users,
> >administrators, and the marketers of Free Software.
> >
> >> But I am not
> >> convinced that free software needs any specific thing that one would
> >> call an economic foundation, because I don't think that the greatest
> >> limiting factor today for the further development of free software is
> >> a matter of funding.
> >
> >There has to be a foundation of economic development because otherwise
> >people can't eat. Eating is good. Not eating is very bad.
>
> This sounds like it plows the same ground as an email discussion I had with
> RMS a couple of years ago, about the time of the UCITA fight in Maryland.
>
> Also, strangely, as I understand it, Tony Stanco's first efforts in the
> area of free/open-source software involved a rather grandiose and
> impractical proposal intended to help in this area.
>
> I think it may have been bits and pieces of his idea that led to the
> conference.
>
>
> Stan Klein
>
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> To: fairuse-at-nylxs.com, rms-at-gnu.org, jays-at-panix.com
> Subject: NY Fair Use Announcements Archive
>
> ==============================================================================
> To: fairuse-at-mrbrklyn.com, fairuse-announce-at-mrbrklyn.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com, nylxs-announce-at-mrbrklyn.com
> From: Ruben I Safir
> Reply-to: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 23:38:27 -0400
> Subject: [fairuse-announce] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
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>
> Everyone who has participated in the efforts over the last year to roll back the DMCA and to fight for
> Fair Use, should take a bow, as NY Fair Use is one year old this week. It was last May, in response to
> the growing threat of digital rights management systems and legal extortion which threatened our Public
> Libraries, and Public School system, a few of us joined together for the first meeting of NY Fairuse at
> the Killarny Rose downtown. Through that Summer, and through the most difficult Fall anyone could ever
> imagine, NY Fair Use has been a beacon for freedom, individual rights, and political action unto today.
>
> Over this past year, we have had incredible success in bringing the issues to Congress, and making our
> elected leaders aware of present danger to the foundation stone of Demacracy. When Librarians were called
> terrorist by AAP, we were their fighting for libraries. And when Dmitry Skylar was jailed, we were ready to
> lead the way for his freedom. And when the WTC was being destroyed, we were in the streets protecting the
> rights of individuals to their property and access to information. And this winter, when everyone was afraid
> to go to Washington, we were there dropping our petitions and presenting our cases.
>
> But there is still more to do. Come join NYFAIRUSE as we plan our next phase in protecting digital property
> rights, as we press Congress for protection from Copyright abuse in the home and in business as we press for
> a new Fair Use bill, currently being written by Jean Thewell. The objectives of this bill will be to give
> power back to artists and writers, to prevent wiretapping our our computers, and protect fair competition
> in the digital device market, by defining more tightly Copyright as the exception to Fair Use.
>
> Meet with us Tuesday, May 7th at the Killarny Rose, 6:30PM, at 82 Beaver Street, and help us pass this bill,
> and bring a new era of fair use, empowerment, and fair competition into the 21st Century.
>
>
> Ruben
>
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