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| DATE | 2003-02-17 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU
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More Wynkoop ethics from my private resources...
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Subject: [hangout] Hangout-Clone List Admin Message for Brett Wynkoop
From: Ron Guerin
To: NYLXS
Cc: ericr-at-yankthechain.com
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Date: 29 Aug 2002 21:18:49 -0400
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Brett,
Since I cannot correspond with your mail server as you block both my
mail server as part of an IP block, and for some reason, the NYLUG
server as a spam source, (I can't find out why as your URL
http://www.wynn.com/rbl/ is a 404) I cannot unsubscribe from the clone
of the hangout list, (which also does not contain headers for
unsubscription) or inquire about it directly.
I would like to be off the clone, and I'm sure that Eric R
would also, as per his message the other night.
Thanks,
Ron
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New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
On 2003.02.17 15:06 Ruben I Safir wrote:
>
> Here's an oldie but goodie from NYLUG which demonstrate an ETHICAL mens of
> disagreeing with a group. This was the email which I sent when we seperated NYLXS
> from NYLUG. Notice, no threates to take over the group, or disposal of it's leadership:
>
> http://www.nylug.org/mlist/nylug-talk_mhonarc/2001-10/msg00183.html
>
> I didn't WANT to make a different group. but as a moral human being, I was not
> going to destroy Jims work over this disagreement. So i created NYLXS, just as I singlehandledly
> created NY Fair Use
>
> This is in contrast to YOUR efforts, which include stealing the NY Fair Use
> website, sitting on the NYLXS.org domain, and harrassing us at meetings.
>
> Your a villian in this sorry story.
>
>
>
> > We needed to be united organization lead by a good
> > core to build economic
> > and political action for our membership. We had a
> > great core or Jay,
> > Billy, Peter, Ari, Jim, Bruce, Lynn and Ruth. And
> > we built onto that
> > adding Ron, and Joe, etc. And we started to show
> > leadership to the
> > youngsters in the local high schools, potentially
> > developing young talent
> > and adovcates. And with a little more leadership
> > from the top, we could
> > have developed business test cases, a source of FS
> > skill leaders through
> > aprenticiship, a lending library, an organizied
> > public education plan, a
> > Free Software fraternity, and advocacy group.
> >
> >
> > Instead, you appointed without any democratic
> > process, a bunch of
> > moderators, and ear marked NYLUG to continue as
> > nothing more than a dog and
> > pony show with a tech list, alianating half the core
> > membership in the
> > process. So instead of developing a program for
> > Young Talent, we make
> > David Blackman and Billy Donahue EQUALS amoung
> > members....and folks who
> > would never list a finger to make a meeting, let
> > alone a protest, get equal
> > time and space at NYLUG.
> >
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> Fair Use -
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>
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__________________________
Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-0585
____________________________
New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
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