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| DATE | 2003-02-19 |
| FROM | vin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse
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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:57, Joe Grastara wrote:
> Marco,
> I would support a face to face sit down between Brett, Jay and the
> Board of NYLXS. If you have any influence with Brett and Jay I would
> suggest that you invite them to take this course and hopefully we can
> clear the air and get these matters settled once and for all. Ruben
> has made in my opinion an adequate peace offering, in offering to trade
> the NY Fair Use name for the NYLXS.org domain name. This as far as I
> can tell should make both sides happy and bring a quick and economical
> solution to the matter. I agree with you in that I am also tired of
> this debate. It's a waste of time and energy on both NYLXS' part and
> on Brett's part. The sooner that this issue is resolved, the sooner
> that we can all focus our energies on more productive endeavors.
> -Joe Grastara
In my emails with Jay made public, Jay has proposed exactly this, or almost
exactly: a sit down with the membership, unless I am mistaken. I am going
to go back and read the emails once again. But from what I am recalling from
a long night last night, Jay was asking for a sit down. Whether Brett would
agree to this, I don't know, as I've been bcc'ing him as indicated within the
body of the emails, and cc'ing him as indicated in the cc field, but all of
the responses have come from Jay, and in a private email exchange I've just
returned to Jay, he has indicated that he is not speaking for "NYFU", just
himself, and that "NYFU" will be unable to respond this week. Whether this
is to run the clock on Ruben's offer to further bait him, get under his skin,
to see what other reaction can be drawn out, or whether Brett is in Siberia
somewhere without a net connection, I don't know.
Jay has asked to speak to me via phone, and I'm going to make arrangements to
do this as soon as I have the rest of my schedule completed for today. I
have appointments to reschedule for my personal situation which have priority.
I have told him, as indicated in the emails posted on hangout, that I am open
to receiving new information, and can easily change my mind. I also stated
that I may make a motion to have him reinstated to the list, but I really
believe that would be counterproductive at this time. From Jay's last email
response on the email I posted on hangout, and as excerpted by Evan, such
responses by Jay directly on hangout will only make the situation worse.
Whether this is an honest attempt to resolve the issue, or just to bait and
draw out the processs is in question due to the last response by Jay on the
email posted by hangout. I'll have a better opinion on this after I talk to
Jay.
Vin.
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 09:34 AM, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:29:43AM -0500, vin wrote:
> >> As to the blocking issue. I don't know if it was initiated by Ruben,
> >> or by
> >> the board or exactly when, but at this point, it no longer matters.
> >> I can
> >> accurately say that a vote was taken by board members, and it is
> >> officially a
> >> board decision to maintain the block.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Can I ask what could possibly have convinced the board that censorship
> > of the opposing arguement was in any way desirable, or could possibly
> > help to resolve this issue in any way shape or form?
> >
> > --marco
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
>
> ____________________________
> New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
____________________________
New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....
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