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| DATE | 2003-02-19 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution
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Marco
I also want to say that I'm understnading of your being upset
over me handling of this, and particularly that you've been
put in the middle of it, but I want this settled before leaving office
and many of us have tried this route with Jay and Brett previously, without
results (for months).
Your in the minority on the board at this junction. Despite the fact that
JoeV is right, and that there is an emotional component to this, it's a
fool who lets his emotions sway over judgement.
Brett and Jay are wrong... and yes, that upsets me personally.
The core matters to this issue is that I specifically asked for no
mirroring of the NYLXS site, no registration of the NYLXS.org site,
for cooperation on NY Fair Use.
All these things were ignored.
Jay was making plans for NY Fair Use against my leadership,
WHILE he was living in my home. So much for friendship. He was the one for
immediate need for DSL access. I was ready to fix it correctly.
But Marco, I'll try not to recall the trouble and time it took you to get your
DSL working and your vendor.....
Or the incident with you on the Cell Phone, face turning red and yelling at
them that you don't care about the back and forth with verizon, you just wanted
the DSL up.
One last note, as I said before, even the effort I asked for, which was
help getting the DSL reconnected from Speakeasy, was not an excuse to later
try to shoe hron me into a DSL connection with a company, which a few days
later, failed to get the DSL up because of whether related event, to
try to choose for me my local phone serivice provider when I got fustrated
with Verizons negligence on this matter and changed to ATT&T, the harassment
I recieved on the return from Washington with NY fair Use, the attempted
coup of NY Fair Use by Brett and Jay, the cybersquatting on NYLXS.org, the
forcing of people onto an 'alternate mailing list' for NYLXS or the
continued refusal to meet with the board and explain their position in a
proper environment for months.
Time is running out on this and the NYLXS.org domain is to be returned,
and NY Fair Use will continue to be run in conjunction with NYLXS
as it has for the past year. They can, if they wish, take my offer and
trade the rights for the NY Fair Use brand, not that they have current
rights to it, but simply I'm willing to give it up to settle this matter,
in exchange for the assingment of NYLXS.org back to the organization.
There is no more monkey business on this. Jay's previous messages made clear
that, as they were posted to hangout and fairuse, that they have no evidence
other than personal attacks to back any of their claims, and if they
want the use of NY Fair Use, I'm willing to trade it for the NYLXS.org
domain.
One last point, and this is especially to you Marco. You have this illusion
sometimes that I'm less flesh and blood than other people, but I'm not. This
abuse of me personally and the organization in the general has been very
hard on my and I'm in my rights to be upset about this after all this time,
and it is not an unreasonable request to ask my friends to support me on this
based on my record as an honest friend and giver for you over time. To accuse
me of being less and transparent in this matter is hurtful when coming from a
friend.
Ruben
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:26:51PM -0500, Marco Scoffier wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:43:54AM -0500, Joseph A. Maffia wrote:
> > Marco Scoffier called for more time to allow the inspectors to do
> > their jobs and allow Jay and Brett to present their case to the UN.
> I object to being compared to the spineless French on this issue.
> > President, Ruben Safir, has demanded that the evil empire of Jay and Brett
> I do deny allegations of evil, which many of you are willing to believe.
> The opposition is not hiding. They have been SILENCED.
>
> What is Ruben afraid of and shouldn't we know?
>
> --Marco
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