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| DATE | 2003-02-19 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
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I second this.
We can draft it on the list if possible.
Joe, can I get the minutes from last night up?
Ruben
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:25:52PM -0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> I agree with Evan, an agenda needs to be drafted and possibly agreed
> upon by all parties before going into the meeting.
>
> -Joe Grastara
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:12 PM, Inker, Evan wrote:
>
> >
> >Ahh,
> >
> >One last condition: An agenda for this meeting needs to be drafted as
> >I do
> >not want several different parties going off in multiple convoluted
> >areas
> >not related to this matter. If we keep it simple, to the point, and
> >organized, we can maintain a sense of order.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:02 PM
> >To: 'Ruben Safir'; Joe Grastara
> >Cc: Marco Scoffier; hangout
> >Subject: RE: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
> >
> >
> >Due to the gravity and importance of this situation, I would strongly
> >suggest that this proposed meeting be a Board Meeting and in agreement
> >with
> >Joe Gastara, this meeting should be held in a private setting. The only
> >other condition I would like imposed is that all a final conclusion to
> >this
> >matter be resolved once and for all. This has gone on way too long....
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:45 AM
> >To: Joe Grastara
> >Cc: Marco Scoffier; Ruben Safir; hangout
> >Subject: Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm not opposed to a board meeting with their apearance.
> >
> >I'm opposed to it in a public place, and I'm oppsoed to it being a
> >'presentation' and I'm opposed to it not being linked to the
> >negotiation of
> >the trade of the NY Fair Use brand from NYLXS to Jay and Brett for the
> >.org
> >domain.
> >
> >
> >There is no indication from Jay or Marco that the meeting that is being
> >proposed is for any other purpose other than a indictment of NYLXS,
> >and me
> >personally.
> >
> >This I'm not interested in. There has been no suggfestion that they
> >are
> >willing to transfer the domain. This is just the repeated request by
> >Jay
> >that 'both side of the story' needs to be heard when they've had
> >multiple
> >opportunities to do this.
> >
> >It's either a meeting to get the Domain exchanged for the NY Fair Use
> >brand
> >or not.
> >
> >Marco can respond to what they are willing to agree to or not. But I'm
> >willing to bet a lot that they are not willing to actually put the
> >matter to
> >binding arbitration of to negotiate the exchange.
> >
> >and Sunday is the last day I'm holding out that offer. So they should
> >move
> >faster. I want this settled before the election.
> >
> >Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:33:38AM -0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> >>
> >>Ruben,
> >>
> >>We need to have a meeting with Jay and Brett. If you don't want to
> >>call it an official Board Meeting, I think that's an acceptable and
> >>appropriate measure, given that they have been banned from the
> >>organization.
> >>
> >>I do agree with you though that the stated purpose from our point of
> >>view of the meeting from the start needs to be the transfer of the
> >>NYLXS.org domain from Brett to NYLXS. However we should, as a show of
> >>good faith, despite any personal issues any of us may have with them,
> >>give them an opportunity to voice any legitimate issues they may have
> >>with NYLXS as an organization.
> >>
> >>Additionally I suggest that we transfer the meeting from the Killarney
> >>Rose to a location that has internet connectivity so that we may
> >>complete the transfer of the domain right at the meeting.
> >>
> >>Once again though, the deal you are offering, Ruben, is one that Jay
> >>and Brett will likely find to be fair and thus will result in the
> >>resolution of this matter. We should not thwart this process any
> >>further by petty bickering over the logistics of the meeting.
> >>
> >>-Joe Grastara
> >>
> >>On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:44:33AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>>No
> >>>>
> >>>>There will only be a meeting for them to hand over NYLXS.org
> >>>>
> >>>>There banded at this point.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ruben
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Can you deny the board such a meeting?
> >>>
> >>>As far as I can tell Evan Inker, Vin, Joe Grastara and myself are in
> >>>favor of such a meeting. I am happy that finally there are some
> >>>other voices on this.
> >>>
> >>>Of course we would need a moderator and an assurance on both sides to
> >>>accept the results of such a meeting.
> >>>
> >>>I cannot understand how hushing the other side can possibly bring
> >>>about a resolution.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--Marco
> >>>
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