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| DATE | 2003-02-19 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org
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We can draft it on the list if possible.
We should schedule for it for Sunday perhaps?
If they want to, Brett and Jay can come and complain to the board
about me and so forth then, and then trade the NYLXS.org domain for the
rights of the NY Fair Use brand.
I doubt this will satisfy marco, but I think it gives them the oppurtunity
for a fair hearing and to air their grievences properly without it becoming
a circus.
Joe, can I get the minutes from last night up?
Ruben
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:25:52PM -0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> I agree with Evan, an agenda needs to be drafted and possibly agreed
> upon by all parties before going into the meeting.
>
> -Joe Grastara
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:12 PM, Inker, Evan wrote:
>
> >
> >Ahh,
> >
> >One last condition: An agenda for this meeting needs to be drafted as
> >I do
> >not want several different parties going off in multiple convoluted
> >areas
> >not related to this matter. If we keep it simple, to the point, and
> >organized, we can maintain a sense of order.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:02 PM
> >To: 'Ruben Safir'; Joe Grastara
> >Cc: Marco Scoffier; hangout
> >Subject: RE: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
> >
> >
> >Due to the gravity and importance of this situation, I would strongly
> >suggest that this proposed meeting be a Board Meeting and in agreement
> >with
> >Joe Gastara, this meeting should be held in a private setting. The only
> >other condition I would like imposed is that all a final conclusion to
> >this
> >matter be resolved once and for all. This has gone on way too long....
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:45 AM
> >To: Joe Grastara
> >Cc: Marco Scoffier; Ruben Safir; hangout
> >Subject: Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm not opposed to a board meeting with their apearance.
> >
> >I'm opposed to it in a public place, and I'm oppsoed to it being a
> >'presentation' and I'm opposed to it not being linked to the
> >negotiation of
> >the trade of the NY Fair Use brand from NYLXS to Jay and Brett for the
> >.org
> >domain.
> >
> >
> >There is no indication from Jay or Marco that the meeting that is being
> >proposed is for any other purpose other than a indictment of NYLXS,
> >and me
> >personally.
> >
> >This I'm not interested in. There has been no suggfestion that they
> >are
> >willing to transfer the domain. This is just the repeated request by
> >Jay
> >that 'both side of the story' needs to be heard when they've had
> >multiple
> >opportunities to do this.
> >
> >It's either a meeting to get the Domain exchanged for the NY Fair Use
> >brand
> >or not.
> >
> >Marco can respond to what they are willing to agree to or not. But I'm
> >willing to bet a lot that they are not willing to actually put the
> >matter to
> >binding arbitration of to negotiate the exchange.
> >
> >and Sunday is the last day I'm holding out that offer. So they should
> >move
> >faster. I want this settled before the election.
> >
> >Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:33:38AM -0500, Joe Grastara wrote:
> >>
> >>Ruben,
> >>
> >>We need to have a meeting with Jay and Brett. If you don't want to
> >>call it an official Board Meeting, I think that's an acceptable and
> >>appropriate measure, given that they have been banned from the
> >>organization.
> >>
> >>I do agree with you though that the stated purpose from our point of
> >>view of the meeting from the start needs to be the transfer of the
> >>NYLXS.org domain from Brett to NYLXS. However we should, as a show of
> >>good faith, despite any personal issues any of us may have with them,
> >>give them an opportunity to voice any legitimate issues they may have
> >>with NYLXS as an organization.
> >>
> >>Additionally I suggest that we transfer the meeting from the Killarney
> >>Rose to a location that has internet connectivity so that we may
> >>complete the transfer of the domain right at the meeting.
> >>
> >>Once again though, the deal you are offering, Ruben, is one that Jay
> >>and Brett will likely find to be fair and thus will result in the
> >>resolution of this matter. We should not thwart this process any
> >>further by petty bickering over the logistics of the meeting.
> >>
> >>-Joe Grastara
> >>
> >>On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:44:33AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>>No
> >>>>
> >>>>There will only be a meeting for them to hand over NYLXS.org
> >>>>
> >>>>There banded at this point.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ruben
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Can you deny the board such a meeting?
> >>>
> >>>As far as I can tell Evan Inker, Vin, Joe Grastara and myself are in
> >>>favor of such a meeting. I am happy that finally there are some
> >>>other voices on this.
> >>>
> >>>Of course we would need a moderator and an assurance on both sides to
> >>>accept the results of such a meeting.
> >>>
> >>>I cannot understand how hushing the other side can possibly bring
> >>>about a resolution.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--Marco
> >>>
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