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| DATE | 2003-02-12 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.
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There is no way to view the event other than an advocacy event, and OS/FS
marketing event.
Clearly IBM and NS view it that way.
Tony is not that stupid.
Ruben
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:58:11PM -0500, Dave Williams wrote:
>
> Fair enough. I guess that the heart of the issue is the fact that Mr.
> Stanco isn't actually running an advocacy event, just something that
> looks a lot like one. Of course there will be plenty of people who get
> a lot of value out of it, regardless.
>
> I sympathize with the frustration people feel when they commit to a
> movement that is so amenable to misinterpretation and revision. Not to
> mention so difficult to adequately fund or represent! Maybe I should
> look at the big picture and be thankful that it is making any inroads at
> all.
>
> Still, I think there is a lot of hubris involved when people start
> toying around with large predatory monopolies. If you spend a lot of
> time in the rarefied air of DC you could get an inflated opinion of your
> political skills, and if people don't realize that MS has a culture of
> competition and victory-at-all-costs by this point they are asking for
> trouble. The fallout of such self-indulgent miscalculations won't be
> pretty.
>
> On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 20:04, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote:
> > I agree that this vigilance is necessary and must happen. However, it is
> > my personal belief that showing up at an event, and being a respectful
> > participant, to speak about how our dedication to those principles and how
> > Matusow and others work against them is precisely the way to be vigilant.
> >
> > Stanco doesn't run advocacy events anymore. That's upsetting and
> > disheartening. But it's reality. Given that reality, we should use these
> > "both sides allowed" events he now does run to get our vigilance across to
> > as many people as we can.
> >
> > If someone gives you a pulpit to spread your beliefs, use it!
> >
> > -- bkuhn (speaking for himself, not his employer)
>
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