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Klein" SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. At 03:51 AM 2/10/2003 -0500, ruben safir wrote: >> >Never heard of him. His paper had so much influence that there are thousands >> >of FedBizOp jobs requiring GNU Desktops.... >> > >> >Right? >> > >> >> His paper documents the existing situation. And what makes you think the >> work shows up as a stated requirement for free/open-source in FedBizOp? >> BTW, he works for Mitre. You've certainly heard of them. Haven't you? >> > > >His paper hasn't done a darn thing. I just poured over bizops this evening >and their is not a SINGLE KDE desktop, free software database request, >or any other commonly used Free Software project in any of the requests. > >NOT ONE. > > And you probably wouldn't see any mentioned even if free/open-source were the most commonly used software in the government. That's the way they do things. The fact that you are looking in bizops proves you know nothing about federal contracting. Bizops is the replacement for the CBD. By the time anything gets in there other than bid requests for commodity items, the procurement has already been wired to someone. Are you folks on GSA schedule? Have you pursued SBIR's? Do you have a clue what you are doing? > >> I sat in a meeting listening to contractors report on their use of >> free/open-source on government projects and wondering how I can get some of >> that action. At a Maryland High Tech Council event, I asked a federal CIO >> about his use of free/open-source and he told me he has a couple of >> contractors and is making major use of it. You need to know the >> ins-and-outs of federal contracting to figure out how it happens. >> > >The fact that the contractors are making use of free software from time to >time is not the same thing as the government actually being receptive and >encourging Free Software. In fact, specification after specification >outlines needed Microsoft infrastructure for existing components. > >Most of it, actually sounds fixed. > >This is the very definition of 'ineffective' as well as useless. > >The only thing that can be concluded is that the good folks doing >the presentations don't know how to market Free Software in everyday >common usage. > >This will change, but it won't be because of any of these efforts, white >papers and political eggshell dancing. > Marketing doesn't take place at a conference like that. The conference and all the papers only help get the door open and provide some resources with good credentials that can help the real marketing. > > >> Terry simply documented -- recently -- that it has been happening with good >> results. That provides a basis for further growth. >> >> > >The results have not been good. The evidence is clear in FedBizOps What you will see in FedBizOps is an RFP for a support contract. The support contractor gets the job and gets a task order. They convince the customer to let them use free/open-source to do the task order, and build a successful system. Terry did a survey and found that this (or something like it) has happened on something like 40% of DoD systems without DoD actually knowing about it. MS FUDsters go to DoD and say "you shouldn't use free/open-source because you can't trust it and it won't work," but Terry's report says "You've been using it all over the place and finding it trustworthy, and finding that it does work." > > >> >> It was in their meeting that I listened to the contractor reports. BTW, >> they don't trumpet the fact that the software is free/open-source. They >> trumpet the cost savings, improved service, greater productivity, and other >> benefits, and oh-by-the-way it is free/open-source and that's what made it >> work. >> > > >Since their not trumpeting the benifits of Free Software because - it's >Free Software, then there is no possible spin off to other projects. > >Another failure. You've got 100 unemployed people looking for instant results. Federal government projects have to be marketed 3 or 4 years in advance. If you are looking for work in FedBizOps you have already failed. > >> >> His work provides ammunition for business cases to prove that >> free/open-source really saves money. Microsoft FUDsters are claiming >> otherwise. David's work is a primary resource for justifying consideration >> of free/open-source. >> >> > >Actually, I read his paper. Nobody else ever heard of it. It has holes >you can drive a mac truck through. Jay Sulzburger gave a more convincing >write up in 20 lines in this thread that Wheeler whole report. You mean the idiot who wrote that stupid email about your political stuff? He wouldn't know a business case if was handed to him on a silver platter. > > >> > >> >This is an old story already which started with NT3. And the White Papers >> haven't >> >had any impact. NONE >> > >> >> What white papers are you talking about and how do you gauge their impact? >> > >I gage the impact by the number of phone calls Free Software Consultants >get asking for bids, and successful projects. > >I gage the impact when I see oversite committees investigating agencies >for the misuse of government funds in the purchase of propriatory systems >with bloated costs, single source lockups, negligent security holes, and >closed standards. > >When the charts for adoptation moves off the early apopter stage and >into a market growth stage, that is a gage of growth. > >When I go to 26 federal plaza and see Free Software desktops used to >write reports by clerks, and when I say, have you heard of Linux, and >I hear something other than, 'huh - what's that' from office workers, > >THAT IS PROGRESS. What federal agencies are headquartered at "26 federal plaza"? Compare where we are now to where we were 5 years ago. Then look 5 years ahead. That's how you gauge the impact of this stuff. > > >> >> Organization is one thing and abrasive, in-your-face tactics are something >> else. It sounds to me like you are wedded to abrasive, in-your-face >> tactics because that's the only thing you know. >> > >Nonsense - People are the same nearly everywhere. It's just one big >happy party in Washington. It takes 15 white papers to get a copy >of SUSe into the hands of someone making a buying decision. And >nobody wants to upset anyone... Yup. That's the way it's been for the last 40 years that I know, and it's how it will be for the next 40. > >unless your trying to impeach the president. > >I'm abbrassive in THIS matter, because, frankly, most of the people >making this deicsion are so corrupted and so dense, that it's the >only thing they respond to. > You are abrasive because that's the only thing you know how to do. There is an old song about "Johnny One Note." Shall we name you "Ruben One Note"? >It's not going to change anything. Tony is STILL on the take and Perens >is still wedded to the idea that Stallman is evil and incompetentent >and Microsoft needs a fair trial (as if they haven't already been >convicted in a few). > > > > >> The Free Software issue and the DRM issue are two separate issues, although >> they have points of connection. > >No, they are NOT. Free Software is directly wedded to DRM. It's the same >issue. > >> >> Take a look at the IEEE-USA position paper on DRM. I think it is being >> actively lobbied. >> >> > >I've seen the lobbying and it sucks. You have? I don't think you would see it. Give me details. > >We had more impact on DRM in one afternoon than the efforts of the entire >community, including the Libraries, OSI, Universities all combined. Everyone >is looking for a compromise on the issue, and nobody is doing the work. > >There is no compromise on DRM. Vote for it, and we will work to defeat >you in Congress on every turn. We will knock on doors, hand out flyers, >and if need be, run for office. > >There is no Compromise on DRM, and their is no compromise on keeping our >public communications infrastructure free, and in the hands of the people. You might be interested in the forthcoming IEEE-USA position on broadband. It goes to the board for final approval on Wednesday. I can't discuss it until then. > > >> >Instead, I have Linus making DRM chips for Transmeta. >> > >> >All Hail the Perens/Cohen political doctrine. >> > >> >Correct political tactics work everywhere. And they are always the same. >> >> >> One size always fits all? Hmmm. How sophomoric. >> >> > >Come ON ... you can sling a better insult than that! > Competition in slinging insults is a New York thing. Learn the differences in culture! > >> >> You don't recognize a political conference when you see one? You need to >> learn about politics in the large sense. >> > >Nonsense. Show me the Money Mr Cohen... Who is this guy Cohen you keep mentioning? > >Your talking, but your not producing results. I actually represent someone. >I've actually been elected to a public position. And what position might that be? >I'm actually responsible >to someone. It's time to grow up and realize that MS is not giving you >ANYTHING, and neither is the government. You'll get victory when you >removed from the cold dead hands. > > > >> >> Us guys? I'm not an organizer of the conference. I'm just a very >> interested bystander and free/open-source software advocate who sees what's >> going on and wants to help prevent a train wreck. >> > >Then help to remove MS from the panel and give a working stiff a chance. > > >> >> Let's see. Wall Street is one of the fastest growing markets for >> free/open-source. > > >Wall Street isn't growing at all, and it was never a haven for free software. >Go to the NY Times and put in the word Linux and see what pops up ... >a bunch of Solaris and NT jobs with GNU/Linux as a side order. > >What does SIAC run on? > >What do Brokers trade on? > >What Database servers are being used? > >Do you actually know the answers to any of these questions? > >Wall Street looks for Fincancial Experience FIRST. And it >doesn't care less what the platform is. > The issue is do you know the answers to these queations 5 years from now? >From what I've heard, they might not be the same as the answers now. >> > >> >Your conference can not deliver that is currently hurting our efforts. >> >> >> It isn't *my* conference. > > >It's your to the degree that your defending an imoral decision on the >part of the conference decision makers. An immoral decision??? Where do you get that crazy idea? Political or economic mistake is one kind of issue, but where do you get immoral? > >Thanks for the engaging discussion Stan. You've gone a long way to >helping us decide what actions to take. I hope you keep your hot heads screwed on. Unfortunately, I somehow doubt it. Stan Klein ____________________________ New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... 2003-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-04 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fscc and hardware 2003-02-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [Marketing] Desktop Linux Consortium [louis-at-openoffice.org] 2003-02-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Fwd: Re: [Marketing] Desktop Linux Summit...OOo's cancellation recommended?] [shiser-at-cloud9.net] 2003-02-05 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Scribus Rocks 2003-02-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] This is so funny it is sad.. 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] This is so funny it is sad.. 2003-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Franz.Schmid-at-altmuehlnet.de: Re: Scribus] 2003-02-05 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] This is so funny it is sad.. 2003-02-06 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] AT&T is yanked from access 2003-02-06 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] attbi AT&T 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] AT&T is yanked from access 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] This is so funny it is sad.. 2003-02-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-06 Chalu Kim <chalu-at-egenius.com> Re: [hangout] eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop 2003-02-06 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] egov sellout and protest 2003-02-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] egov sellout and protest 2003-02-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-07 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [novalug] Fwd: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com] [mandi-at-linuxchick.org] 2003-02-07 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-07 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-07 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal: 2003-02-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-07 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-07 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] attbi AT&T 2003-02-08 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 From: "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler-at-dwheeler.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-08 Michael L Richardson <michael.l.richardson-at-verizon.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 CEO of Brooklyn <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] My comments on what was said... 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-08 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Subject: [hangout] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. 2003-02-08 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster-at-crackmonkey.org> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-08 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-09 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Subject: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] re: communication 2003-02-09 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Communication is the way - not boycutting 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Desktops 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Where the heck is my distros 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Claus_S=F8rensen?= <cs-at-openoffice.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 From: "Seth J. Blank" <seth-at-rocketreview.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Maxwell Spangler <maxwax-at-speakeasy.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-09 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Simplicity 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: [hangout] Simplicity [jdave23-at-informationwave.net] 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Simplicity 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] And yes, thank you 2003-02-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] frisk tonite? 2003-02-09 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] questions about tony 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Out of the Bag 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] Re: out of the bag 2003-02-10 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag 2003-02-10 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] that answes the question - thanks 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-10 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-10 Andrew Newton <anewton-at-ecotroph.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-10 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-10 Bruce Perens <bruce-at-perens.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] September Journal post on slashdot 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Status 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your message to novalug awaits moderator approval [novalug-admin-at-tux.org] 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Monkey Master and Prince Regent of San Francisco <monkeymaster-at-crackmonkey.org> Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Status 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-10 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback] 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: LinuxWorld Conference & Expo requests your feedback] 2003-02-10 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] Status [jdave23-at-informationwave.net] 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use status: Answer to thread on Newsforge 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Marketing] Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] attbi AT&T 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE Linux Office Desktop 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] PDA Recommendations 2003-02-11 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] AT&T is yanked from access 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-11 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Accounting & linux 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-11 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: Out of the Bag 2003-02-11 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] egov-OS 2003-02-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: questions about tony 2003-02-11 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-11 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn-at-ebb.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stanco show his colors 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stage Two 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Library Book Missing 2003-02-12 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Stanco show his colors 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Washington Egov-OS 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Most Valuable Payers 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: questions about tony 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-12 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-12 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-12 A1Environmental-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Stage Two 2003-02-12 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Stage Two 2003-02-12 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Stage Three 2003-02-12 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Status 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Know your enemy 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stage Three 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: status 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Quotes 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] re: egov debate 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-13 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-13 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday 2003-02-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show this Sunday 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class] 2003-02-14 marco-at-metm.org Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Radio Show 8PM 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-14 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-14 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Donation 2003-02-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Derek Neighbors <derek-at-gnue.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-15 From: "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein-at-cpcug.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] a proposed solution 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] rules committee 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Customes for Washington 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Website is up 2003-02-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Young Man 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank God for proc 2003-02-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems 2003-02-22 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Noses, behavioral modification, and solving problems 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Monday Board Meeting at R&M 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dinner Videos 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-22 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout - Business week 2003-02-22 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Re: [hangout] Resignation 2003-02-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Volunteers needed 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] More on the Networking Board Band isue 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More on the Networking Board Band isue 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 1500 Solders signed up for NY Fair Use Washington Action 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org Deal 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Outgoing Executive Warns Microsoft Must Embrace Open Source 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair USe Planning Meeting 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com] 2003-02-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Thank you the Tony Stanco's in the world [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com] 2003-02-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RMS for our RIS 2003-02-20 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Marco - resignation 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] TV Spot: 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] TV Spot: 2003-02-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Grant Writer 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Jobs! 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Job Offer 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MINUTES 2003-02-20 Bill Putney <bputney-at-effective-tech.com> Re: [hangout] Election Commitee 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Joe Maffia - a letter please? 2003-02-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Resignation 2003-02-20 Charles Nardino <cnardino-at-bway.net> Subject: [hangout] Resignation 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC spawns new coperation 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY City and State - Fair Use in City Software 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Grant Writer 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Starret City 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Commitee 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TV Spot: 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Guest Speaker for the NYLXS Radio Show 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal Professionalization 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] EGOV-OS planns for NY Fair Use 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-20 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl One - References 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Kiwi VN: Safir: shipped / tracking 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OETRENDS 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Un Resolution 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout -un resolution 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] New UN Resolution 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] test 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] test 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Propose a resolution/board meeting on Monday 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute 2003-02-19 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Website, and Linux 1 class 2003-02-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OETRENDS 2003-02-18 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Tonight's Meeting 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse, and Jay's response 2003-02-18 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute 2003-02-18 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use/NYLXS Dispute 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting today 2003-02-18 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS, NYFairUse 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tonite 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-18 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: nylxs.org 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.] 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive] 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] NY Fair Use Announcements Archive] 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU] 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU] 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ok I get it 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Ok I get it 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meetings 2003-02-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Meetings 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS General Meeting Changed 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use meeting changed due to weather 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Russell McOrmond <russell-at-flora.ca> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-17 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Re: eGovOS conference in D.C. 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today 2003-02-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Weekly NYLXS Announcments] 2003-02-17 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] NBR -- story on advertising revenue and the TIVO 2003-02-17 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] strange Net Behavior 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-16 ruben safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-16 Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: Open Source for National and Local eGovernment Programs in the U.S. and EU 2003-02-16 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYFAIRUSE dispute 2003-02-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Evan 2003-02-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Egov-OS and NY Fair Use 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution 2003-02-15 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] What/When are the meetings on Monday? 2003-02-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] a proposed solution 2003-02-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Non-Profit 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit 2003-02-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-23 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books 2003-02-24 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS? 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Official name of NYLXS? 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Credit card transaction (and user system) setup needed for HTML::Mason site (telecommute), United States, NY, New York] 2003-02-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-24 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Non-Profit books 2003-02-24 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Plan B 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Plan B 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wynkoop using third parties to copy NYLXS.com 2003-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting at Noon 2003-02-25 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Article 2003-02-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Embrace 2003-02-25 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from last week's meeting (just for the record) 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [robin-at-ipjustice.org: Int'l Civil Liberties Group Demands Global Reform of Intellectual Property Laws] 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Ruben Relieved : Jay Reinstalled 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 10 little things I always wanted to know 2003-02-26 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use 2003-02-26 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: openssl (SuSE-SA:2003:011)] 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] CD-R status update 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] treasury report 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] On IRC #NYLXS 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd) 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Info about NOIE and MS (fwd) 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] treasury report 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] need some help 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Committee 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fai r Use situation 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] CD-R status update 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Board Members 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Members List 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Members 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help 2003-02-26 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] fstab help 2003-02-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] fstab help 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] fstab help 2003-02-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-26 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] Congressman Weiner exposes true goals on fair use 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM HEaring, call for witnesses 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week 2003-02-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Subcommittee Scheduled for action this week 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC: Status of the Online Office 2003-02-28 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jscoblick-at-nyc.rr.com: Costumes] 2003-02-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] things people want to know 2003-02-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show? 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Speaking at "OpenWeekend" and GNU Alexandria to be announced 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] TCP/IP Study Group 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Upcoming NYLXS events this month 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Subject: [hangout] Eben Moglen Essay 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Statement about the NYLXS & New Yorkers For Fair Use situation 2003-02-27 vin <enviro-at-pilosoft.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS/NYFairUse/NYFU 2003-02-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships 2003-02-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fellowships 2003-02-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fellowships 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-informationwave.net> Re: [hangout] Nominations 2003-02-15 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: a proposed solution 2003-02-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] things people want to know 2003-02-22 Shoshana Safir <shani-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Post high school jobs or internships? 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