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DATE | 2003-02-10 |
FROM | David Sugar
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: out of the bag
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First, I would not want or expect to go to their events. They have events to sponsor and state their market position, and they have a right to do this unmolested, just as they can have board meetings where they can say all they wish to about anything, although in the latter they are presumably fiducially obligated to their shareholders.
When one holds an event explicitly to market and sell, whether it's physical products, or ideas, one has a right to choose who should or should not participate to further that message. A marketing conference is not a debate club, and this conference of Tony's is organized as a conference specifically to market a specific set of ideas, in theory in a positive way, not as an event to debate them. One can read this from the cfp with the long list of suggested topics for "proper" consideration, with each topic stating an example the exemplifies the promotion of "Open Source".
I did not see the conference cfp include a topic to "debate closed source licenses". The abstract that was submitted by the Microsoft guy did not meet the criteria of the cfp and should simply have been ignored. They also could have simply said "sorry, we just couldnt fit you in", since they had to reject a number of speakers already.
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:03, William Brent wrote: > gotta ask - suppose Microsoft (and I grant you it is the anti-christ) > were to hold > or sponsor a conference (or SCO or SUN or any one else for that matter) > where > the stated objective was... > "This conference is designed to discuss best practices, raise awareness > and the share experiences among policy makers from the U.S. and Europe. > The conference will draw participants from local, national and > international organizations from the public, private and academic > sectors" > > naturally the focus would be on their OS and their products. - would the > open source community want an opportunity to present opposing views? - > would the open source community cry foul if it was denied that > opportunity - if the answer is no - then - by all means - ban opposing > views from this conference - but - if you think MS would be unfair in > banning us - then you need to give them their day (or 45 minutes). > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Sugar [mailto:dyfet-at-ostel.com] > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:06 AM > To: Dave Williams > Cc: bruce-at-perens.com; rms-at-gnu.org; jays-at-panix.com; hangout-at-nylxs.com; > derek-at-gnue.org; ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com > Subject: [hangout] Re: out of the bag > > > > Actually, I think if this and other conferences were simply to follow > your > "three step program", and I thought that was excellantly phrased by you > yesterday, then that would be sufficient. It is a shame that they did > not > choose to quote that as well.
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