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| DATE | 2003-02-09 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Re: [fairuse] Re: E-Gov-OS conference
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> >
> > What's wrong with excluding them. Their not relevent to the conference
> > and have nothing to contribute.
> >
>
> Not relevant? Hardly. If they were irrelevant, there'd be no issue to
> discuss.
The are irrelevant. And because we're discussing the issue of MS being
invited doesn't make them any more relavent.
Their not an Open Source company...they are NOT relevant to this
conference. They are taking someone elses time away and they ARE
disrupting the conference from it's stated goals.
Aside from their expressed purose of disturbing the conference
there is nothing they can possibly contribute to the goals of the
Conference.
> The problem is that you don't like what you know they're going to
> say. And I agree with you 100%. I just think it is more important to let
> them speak and to demonstrate to people how full of it they are.
>
There is no reason for them to be heard at this platfrom. In fact, It's
IMORAL to let them speak since they will confuse the public.
> > on how to use our limited resources. They can and do talk all the time.
> >
>
> This is your _only_ valid point.
This is the ONLY point that matters.
>
> I never said they were a responsible corporate citizen. I said ignoring or
> marginalizing them would be a _severe_ mistake.
Well, you haven't made an persusive argement to back that up besides restating it.
Obviously we have limited resources and havce the right to choose who would be best
at reaching the goals of marketing FS to the Government, and Obviously MS is not a
positive contributer in this regard, so there is no reason for them to be given
a seat.
If they have questions for the panel, you can register with the rest of the public.
Ruben
> Again, I never said they weren't evil. In fact, I think I agreed that they
> were. What I said was that characterising them as evil and calling them
> names is not productive,
Lieing to the public is not productive. If their evil, say so.
> > have no position in a Free Software event of any kind.
> >
>
> No, open source must respond to Microsoft,
No it MUSTENT do anything. It's not in our best interest to respond with them
at all. It's in our best interest to make our points without being drawn into a
length debate with them.
>
> Showing them that Free Software is right includes showing them how it is
> better (or more right) than the alternatives.
Ummm
No
Although it might be helpful at times to point out how alternatives can
damage the public, there is no reason to have a running fued is any
particular firm, especially one a evil as Microsoft.
Free Softwares benifits stand on their own two feet.
Ruben
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