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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-01-16
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision


Yes - IT IS A FACT.

If I want a CD I walk to Grand Army Plaza and get one from the Brooklyn Public
Library.


Duh...




>
> Huh? A "fact"? So now anybody can go to a movie without paying? See an
> orchestra play? Get a music CD without purchasing it? Not in the United
> States.
>
> > We established this with the advent of Public Education and Free Schools.
> Your arguement is exactly the same one as
> > the racist idiots in the 1820's who opposed the creation of public
> schools.
> > The public OWNS all published works,
>
> Not in the United States, they don't. Copyright law makes that abundantly
> clear.

Absolutely they do. It is the FOUNDING premise of copyright law in the US.

Do you always blabber off at the mouth without any knowledge, or before making
any effort at research? Is it always like this with you. Or is it just this
topic which makes you a little crazy and ignorant.



> Again, you misread the case. Nothing has changed, the Court merely affirmed
> prior law in this area. All of those rights have been discussed in past
> cases, and that law still applies. The term "fair use" is a term of art
> that carries all of the meaning and baggage of prior cases and decisions,

Your completely wrong. This is the first case where the Court has explicitely said
that Fair Use is defined as the tool protects the 1st, 4, 5th ammenndments of the
Bill of Rights.

Since these rights are guaranteed the public, they supercede copyright, and NOW it
becomes CLEAR that an application DMCA is unconstitutional if it inhibits the private
ownership of computers and media.

It confirms, DRM IS THEFT. and it CONFIRMS, We are the STAKEHOLDERS in Copyright.


Now go troll the ignorant where you'll have more success...

Ruben


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  1. 2003-01-14 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Membership dues
  2. 2003-01-30 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: Fwd: Re: [hangout] Web Work needed [akbar-at-pionerd.org]
  3. 2003-01-31 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] SCSI cd drive (anybody want one)
  4. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  5. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  6. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  7. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  8. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  9. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  10. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  11. 2003-01-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  12. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  13. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  14. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  15. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  16. 2003-01-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Eldred decision
  17. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft to release code
  18. 2003-01-15 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Membership dues
  19. 2003-01-25 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS annual dinner

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